Peever
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Removing Leaders

Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:37 am

Is there a way to remove leaders from the game? I'm in a situation right now where I have a 3-star general with horrible skills, but he has the most seniority. I don't want this man leading a regiment much less an entire army group and would love nothing more than to remove him from service.

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Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:41 am

send him into combat alone.
For one grandsire stood with Henry,
On Hanover's Sacred sod,
And the other followed "Harry"
In the Light Horse' foremost squad.
And my grandsires stood together
When the foe at Yorktown fell;
"Stock" like this, against oppression
Could do naught else but REBEL.

Jeff Thompson - Brig Gen. Missouri

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Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:15 am

Peever wrote:Is there a way to remove leaders from the game? I'm in a situation right now where I have a 3-star general with horrible skills, but he has the most seniority. I don't want this man leading a regiment much less an entire army group and would love nothing more than to remove him from service.


Well, that is just the point of all the seniority rules. To make the player face the problems Lincoln (mainly) ad Davis faced with many of his high ranking generals. Its part of the "fun" to suffer it :nuts:
You can always dismiss them but it will cost you NM and VP... and if we are talking about McClellan, the cost will be huge until 63 (i'm not sure about the month) when an event reduces his political cost.
Also yo can sen you crappy amry leaders to some unimportant place with a "paper" force. But it will mean teh sacrifice of a HQ.
Regards!

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Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:52 pm

arsan wrote:Well, that is just the point of all the seniority rules. To make the player face the problems Lincoln (mainly) ad Davis faced with many of his high ranking generals. Its part of the "fun" to suffer it :nuts:
You can always dismiss them but it will cost you NM and VP... and if we are talking about McClellan, the cost will be huge until 63 (i'm not sure about the month) when an event reduces his political cost.
Also yo can sen you crappy amry leaders to some unimportant place with a "paper" force. But it will mean teh sacrifice of a HQ.
Regards!


It's not McClellan that is the problem but Fremont. I was making a new army and he was my most senior officer but has a zero offense rating (playing with random stats) for starters and the rest of his ratings were lower than junior three star officers. In the end I just took the victory and NM penalty by giving the army to someone else and sent Fremont off to be the garrison commander of Oregon.

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VERY Dufus Generals!

Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:52 pm

Of course Lincoln had the same problems in real life. Political concerns kept him from fully disposing of these incompetents such as: McClellan, Banks, Patterson, Fremont, et. al. Athena has to deal with the those generals on the CSA side. What does she do? Tag

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Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:13 pm

tagwyn wrote:Of course Lincoln had the same problems in real life. Political concerns kept him from fully disposing of these incompetents such as: McClellan, Banks, Patterson, Fremont, et. al. Athena has to deal with the those generals on the CSA side. What does she do? Tag


LOL! Fremont was notoriously horrible -- he sat in St. Louis and tried to act like the President of the United States of Missouri early in the war, and then was mercilessly whooped by Stonewall Jackson the following year. He was one of the North's "political generals" that Lincoln just could not easily remove. The most infamous of these men (IMO) was Ben Butler, who bummed up every operation he was involved in (except New Orleans, but Farragutt did all the work for that), and couldn't be removed until the Fort Fisher fiasco near the end of the war.

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Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:06 pm

correct me if i am wrong, but I think your thinking of Banks who got whipped by Jackson, i do not remeber Jackson and Fremont ever battling each other in any battles.

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Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:10 pm

cobraII wrote:correct me if i am wrong, but I think your thinking of Banks who got whipped by Jackson, i do not remeber Jackson and Fremont ever battling each other in any battles.


Out of topics: Are you the Cobra from Octopus Overlord?

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Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:45 pm

boboneilltexas wrote:send him into combat alone.


Damn, that's quite the exploit. I'll have to watch out for someone doing that in PBEM. I think it would unbalance the game.

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Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:27 pm

I never promote Bragg under any circumstances - or Ewell. I guess that historically they are 2 of my pet hates and I just cant bring myself to ever promote them - I swallow the political cost.
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