Levis wrote:The "On to Richmond" event is not a gimmick. It accurately represents the enormous political pressure the Northern press put on Lincoln to begin an offensive. The fact that it is all but impossible doesn't detract from its historical accuracy. BTW, after Bull Run many of these same papers turned abjectly defeatist. Its part of what Lincoln had to put up with.
Levis wrote:The "On to Richmond" event is not a gimmick. It accurately represents the enormous political pressure the Northern press put on Lincoln to begin an offensive. The fact that it is all but impossible doesn't detract from its historical accuracy. BTW, after Bull Run many of these same papers turned abjectly defeatist. Its part of what Lincoln had to put up with.
Jagger wrote:I am playing Kilcavalry in this particular situation. And it has been a very good game as was the first one.
I am curious about the "spirit" of the "on to Richmond" event especially as the event guidance as how to meet the event conditions is non-existent.
Historically, McDowell was pushed by Lincoln to move on to Richmond before the army was ready. McDowell responded by advancing on Manassas and narrowly lost the battle. Lincoln was satisfied to see McDowell advance on Manassas. If McDowell had won, he would have been very happy and the war possibly over. As it was, McDowell lost and the North was shocked and disappointed. I believe a reduction in national morale is a good reflection of the McDowell's defeat at Manassas...
Spharv2 wrote:The public will most definitely not be satisfied by a simple capture of Manassas. Unrealistic as it is to accomplish, expectations were seriously unrealistic at the time. They want to see you crush the rebellion immediately, and anything less will bring headlines and complaints pretty much just like they got at the time.
The NM difference is about right I think. After Manassas, the CSA was sky high, while the Union was simply shocked. It took some fairly important victories to turn things around.
Spharv2 wrote:The public will most definitely not be satisfied by a simple capture of Manassas. Unrealistic as it is to accomplish, expectations were seriously unrealistic at the time. They want to see you crush the rebellion immediately, and anything less will bring headlines and complaints pretty much just like they got at the time.
The public will most definitely not be satisfied by a simple capture of Manassas. Unrealistic as it is to accomplish, expectations were seriously unrealistic at the time. They want to see you crush the rebellion immediately, and anything less will bring headlines and complaints pretty much just like they got at the time.
Spharv2 wrote:Well, the event isn't in there to simulate the pressure from Lincoln to the generals, it's to simulate the public pressure on the government to break up the rebellion before the Confederate Congress could meet in Richmond. Therefore, if you don't do this, you should fail. There was immense pressure on Lincoln from congress and the public to get the army moving so they could run over, beat up on the rebs, and get this over with already.
Jagger wrote:Was the move on to Richmond driven primarily by public pressure or due to the expiration of the 90 day volunteers terms of enlistment?
Jagger wrote:The biggest problem with the event, as it is now structured, is that the Union player will simply ignore the event as the conditions are practically impossible to meet. I know I will. I will just plan that I am losing 10 NM and go pure defense or carry out whatever action I feel is best. It will be a non-event outside of the loss of 10 NM.
Although I strongly suspect human nature would be satisfied with a defeat of the reb army even if Richmond does not fall. Showing clear cut progress towards a goal, defeating the reb army, usually satisfies people.
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