Should I force the an end to the war between Great Britain and USA through script?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:21 am

Yes, it's ahistorical and compromises the campaign's realism.
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No, let's see where it leads.
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Give them more time, but end it if it goes on for a long time.
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Sat May 24, 2014 10:19 pm

loki100 wrote:I think I've deleted the scripts I used for Scotland et al (ie the nations I force released in my game). Easiest way to do this, is to adapt two scripts that already exist. In the Balkan Crisis Events, if you find "RussoTurkishWar1877_War", that will give you the syntax for setting up the diplomatic relations for a new state and in MAH Events "EGY_MahdistRebellion1881" is a great source of how to create a scripted army, set up unit types, create reserves and stocks and so on.

Obviously you'll need to heavily amend but I find that is the easy part once you have the syntax right.

I'll look at my files on another computer later and see if the scripts I wrote are still on there.


Oh thank you so much Loki, if you find the file it's gonna be much easier, but then again even if you don't I belive I can take a look at the events you mentioned and adapt to my situation. :)

By the way what do you think about the situation in my game? Do you have any idea for an international reaction for the situation? As I wrote above I'm thinking about making the entente cordiale events fire earlier as the french would likely feel very threatened in a situation like the one they have in my game. Any suggestion is welcome. :thumbsup:

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Sat May 24, 2014 11:12 pm

ah found the script, I ended up with, here

I think you are right to start to create the anti-German alliance, Russia now hates you, France fears you and you've started to meddle in colonial matters which will make Britain look for continental allies. You've essentially made Germany the threat to all of them, so it makes sense they will start to put aside their own rivalries in favour of trying to contain you?
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The encircled russian forces at Brest-Litovsk surrenders

Sat May 24, 2014 11:16 pm

The russian troops surrenders at Brest-Litovsk liberating a great part of our forces to continue the offensive into the heart of Russia.

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Our forces encircled Minsk.
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The siege of Wilna continues.
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Prince Albrecht takes his revenge against Vanovski, it's really impressive the persistence of this general and surprising that he wasn't hanged after suffering so many heavy defeats, Nicky must be really desperate.
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Blumenthal's 2nd army has crossed the Dvina, now Saint Petersburg doesn't seem so to so far.
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Sat May 24, 2014 11:23 pm

loki100 wrote:ah found the script, I ended up with, here

I think you are right to start to create the anti-German alliance, Russia now hates you, France fears you and you've started to meddle in colonial matters which will make Britain look for continental allies. You've essentially made Germany the threat to all of them, so it makes sense they will start to put aside their own rivalries in favour of trying to contain you?


Thank you Loki! I'll work on this script to adapt it to create Finland.

Regarding the international reaction, I'll make the "Entente cordiale" fire earlier then. I just need to think about something else regarding the russians, I have already made the event Franco-Russian Alliance to give them a defensive treaty, but France didn't answer it (and regarding the situation in my game it was a wise choice, but I fear they didn't answer the treaty because the AI is really reluctant to answer defensive treaties).

I'll have to think about something, although I would really prefer to get an idea from someone else, because it can be more surprising and challenging. :)

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The east front and the international situation

Sat May 24, 2014 11:55 pm

This is the East Front, our forces are advancing very quickly since the defeat of the russian armies in the Vistula, we have even crossed the Dvina in the North by now. The russians cannot hope to stop us this time.
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In the international scene, the americans are expanding their influence over China with this story of "Oper Doors" policy, I don't like it at all, I think they should tread lightly...ok ok, I cannot afford to have any more diplomatic conflict right now...

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The british counterattacked the Boers and now I think the war there changed completelly, unfortunately nobody informed too much about what is happening there, but some oficials have brought me some maps of the situation and they say things are not good at all for the Boers, but as the situation requires I went as far as to offer support for the british in an attempt to make them see us as allies, although I'm sure they didn't...
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Battle of Riga

Sun May 25, 2014 1:24 am

Our armies have crossed the Dvina to take the port city of Riga, the russians had a surprisingly strong army there and the Battle was harder than I had expected it to be, but Blumenthal impetus was unmatched here, besides our guns superiority in every battle now gives us an edge over the russians, there are still some russian forces in Riga, but they're greatly weakened from the battle and the way is almost open for our next thrust towards Saint Petersburg.
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In the south we had our first shortcome since the battle of Wilna, I find the russian capacity to recover from their losses really amazing and somewhat frightening (and specially the AI capacity to make incredibles comebacks), I paid the cost for trusting a good army to the hands of inconpetent generals! I need to take special care on whom I trust my armies! Now this defeat will force us to deviate troops to protect our southern flank...
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Sun May 25, 2014 6:20 am

Oh look who's defending Saint Petersburg!
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...by looking at the weather now in late November I guess our soldiers won't be able to return home in time for Chirstmas...
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Premature Winter

Sun May 25, 2014 7:20 am

The winter in Russia has come prematurely this year, this is trully bad news, Saint Petersburg is in sight, but the last thing we want now is to give the russians time to rebuild their forces, and a harsh weather could force us to do that. We have suffered heavy losses in two failed attempts to assault the russian fortifications in Minsk, their forces are deeply entrenched there and the weather doesn't help.

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The russians have now sent a fleet to the North Sea and they managed to intercept some of our ships in the strait of dover, that really took us by surprise.
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At least one good news, Blumenthal achieved another great victory in his offensive, he has captured Reval, considered one of our key objectives to enable us to capture Saint Petersburg.
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The front has advanced to the east and north, in Ukraine we are trying to secure our defenses, no further offensive will be taken there.
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Minsk Surrender, we're at the doors of Saint Petersburg and an unexpected crisis...

Sun May 25, 2014 8:17 am

We have defeated the russian forces at Minsk, this was a costly battle, after 3 dificult battles we were able to defeat the russians there.
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The besieged russian forces at Narwa surrendered to us without offering much resistance. We're now at the gates of Saint Petersburg! But the winter is harsh...
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We are trying an ambitous plan now, we landed 2 marine divisions at Helsingors, Finland shall be freed from the russian opression, I hope the finnish people will hear our call now!

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This definitely wasn't the kind of Christmas gift I wanted! A crisis between us and the british went out of control and we're now at war with Great Britain! (I never thought that letting the Ai play the crisis cards could result in it!) God Bless Germany now.
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(To sum up, it looks like I didn't need to script an event for the ai reaction, I didn't think the crisis cards could end up in war like this! I'm impressed by the AI agressivity.)
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Sun May 25, 2014 8:19 am

good progress, guess you now have a significant NM advantage (be interesting to see this) but yes, I like it that when you think Athena is beaten (so perhaps make a few mistakes) it can really hit back.

edit - wrote that before your recent post appeared.

Well you could probably manage some period of war with both. I doubt the British will be able to land much in Europe (do they have a transit agreement with France or Belgium?) and may have to start with a direct invasion which will be fairly weak (one hopes).

Its good that sometimes the AI is very agressive in a crisis, can really make upset all sorts of carefully constructed plans. But that one started with a very high crisis intensity (87) so it would have been hard to avoid some escalation leading to war.
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Sun May 25, 2014 8:41 am

loki100 wrote:good progress, guess you now have a significant NM advantage (be interesting to see this) but yes, I like it that when you think Athena is beaten (so perhaps make a few mistakes) it can really hit back.

edit - wrote that before your recent post appeared.

Well you could probably manage some period of war with both. I doubt the British will be able to land much in Europe (do they have a transit agreement with France or Belgium?) and may have to start with a direct invasion which will be fairly weak (one hopes).

Its good that sometimes the AI is very agressive in a crisis, can really make upset all sorts of carefully constructed plans. But that one started with a very high crisis intensity (87) so it would have been hard to avoid some escalation leading to war.


I'm delighted with the situation :w00t:

The british took me completelly off guard, and yes I don't fear much a possible BEF landing in Our country, just in case we have an army stationed in Germany, the 5th army, in fact they were left there in case the french attacked, as I was fearing they would do once I advanced with my armies through Russia.

My greatest worry are two, first our colonies in Africa that are not so well defended and second their navy, I have used that event of yours to give the british a good navy, and the event give them even dreadnoughts, and some turns ago I found out the russians still have some pre-dreadnoughts (in fact I saw 4 of them), so their navies combined can give me a huge problem. They don't have a transit agreement with them, but they have mutual supply with half the world :mdr:

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Sun May 25, 2014 8:45 am

One good thing though is that the british are at war with the Boers and Assante in africa, so I have a chance to become the "champion of the afrikaners" :D I really wish I had von Lettow-Vorbeck already in my forces :)

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The british sneak attack! And the siege of Saint Petersburg commences.

Sun May 25, 2014 9:46 am

The perfidious tea drinkers have sneak attacked us (last turn I was a bit shocked and forgot to take the screenshot)! Now our forces in Mobassa are besieged but we're sending a relief native's force there.

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Von Tirpitz has sunk some russian ships

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We have issued a naval alert on our coast and a defensive fleet is being organized in the Bay of Heligoland.

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Our forces are now besieging Saint Petersburg, but the russian force defending the capital is really strong, we cannot commit any mistake now, we need to force the russians to surrender quickly to be able to better face the british later.

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Picture of the situation in the North Front

Mon May 26, 2014 12:18 am

The russians have surrendered at Novgorod, we now need to send a force through Tver, where the russian commander Sviatopolk-Mirski has about 40.000 soldiers to commit against our forces, to Volhov to reach the Lake Ladoga and isolate Saint Petersburg from the south of the country, then we'll need to take Viborg to completelly isolate Saint Petersburg from the rest of Russia. Our forces are still besieging Helsingors, as soon as they take the city we shall begin to attack from Finland and then the russians will be forced to surrender. The garrison at Saint Petersburg has about 50.000 soldiers and Vanovski army defending the city has about 70.000 soldiers, or so we estimate, the fortress itself is a modern one, with several levels of fortifications and many emplaced guns, so an assault on Saint Petersburg under harsh weather conditions is out of question, we must proceed to isolate the city until they are forced to surrender.

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The overseas battle

Mon May 26, 2014 12:59 am

In Afrika the fight is going on and no decisive battle took place yet. Our native's fanatical warbands managed to defeat a british experidionary cavalry regiment, these natives are great, most of Afrika is by our side now as the british are seem as agressors and were already fighting some african nations before our war erupted. Here are some screenshots of the situation in Afrika:

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Battle of Mombassa, in East Africa, we have failed to drive the british forces out of Mombassa...
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The british have besieged our fortress in Qingdao (China), this is terrible news we need to find a way to send a relief force there in time.
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We're advancing into Moresby, in british New Gunea.
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The russian attempt to breakout and some militia action throughout the russian front

Mon May 26, 2014 4:41 am

Vanovski's army, now reinforced and consisting of about 120.000 soldiers have attempted to breakout the siege in Saint Petersburg, but the second army under general von Blumenthal with the help of the 1st army managed to hold the german position inflicting heavy casualties on the russians. It seems the russians are getting desperated.

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I'm now facing many "people's militia" actions across the russian territory trying to disrup the lines of communication of our armies. They even managed to take control of Minsk, now we're sending some cavalry brigades to guard our lines.
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In Asia our forces captured Moresby, in New Guinea from the british!
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The long siege of Wilna is over

Mon May 26, 2014 6:04 am

The longest siege in the war is now finally over. Wilna was the site of our greatest defeat in this war, so finally capturing it tastes really good.

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The russians tried to breakout from the siege of Helsingors, we managed to hold our positions, but our marines are now with only 4% of their stocks of ammunition, we'll try to supply them from the gulf or else they'll have to surrender after almost capturing Helsingors and we cannot suffer such a defeat now that we're so close to free Finland from the russian grasp.

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Another attempt by russian forces to breakout in Saint Petersburg, this time they gave up when they realized we wouldn't break, thus they only lost 2 cavalry regiments.

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Our attempt to land a relief force in Qingdao, China, failed, we're still encircled at our fortress at the naval base there.
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Offensive against Moscow

Mon May 26, 2014 6:12 am

Our prince Albrecht has led an offensive with the 1st army against russian forces in the direction of Moscow, in an attempt cut the communications between Moscow and Saint Petersburg, unfortunatelly the 1st army is now short of supply and will have to retreat to it's initial position in Novgorod where some russians partisans attacked our lines of communication.

Battle of Kaluga

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Mon May 26, 2014 6:38 am

sorry but it is spelled helsinki.. nicely going but have u ever heard the general winter in russia it allways helps them so dont be over eagerous when u attack.

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Mon May 26, 2014 6:55 am

havi wrote:sorry but it is spelled helsinki.. nicely going but have u ever heard the general winter in russia it allways helps them so dont be over eagerous when u attack.


Yeah General Winter is surely Russia's best commander... :mdr:

Indeed the spelling depends on the language, the original name is Helsingfors, in swedish is still called this way, but anyway I'll call it Helsinki from now on. :)

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General Winter is gone, now General Mud takes his place...

Mon May 26, 2014 7:34 am

Partisans everywhere in Russia, they have set an ambush against Adolf von Bullow division in Buldok, near Minsk. Now they control Minsk and Buldok and there's rain and mud everywhere throughout the front. At least we were able to make another breach in Saint Petersburg fortifications and we have also captured Vitebsk.

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Walther von Schellendorff arrived at Helsinki to prepare the assault on the city, we managed to supply our forces through the gulf of Finland. so now everything is set for the assault.

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We are sending Adolf von Götzen and Theodor von Leutwein to command our forces in Afrika, we must escort the transport ships well as the british royal navy is wreaking havoc in our ships around the world, especially merchant and transport ships, this war is really damaging our economy, we must try to get to an agreement with the british after we end the war in Russia.

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Mon May 26, 2014 7:49 am

HerrDan wrote:Yeah General Winter is surely Russia's best commander... :mdr:

Indeed the spelling depends on the language, the original name is Helsingfors, in swedish is still called this way, but anyway I'll call it Helsinki from now on. :)

Acsually no.. Finland have 2national languages Finnish and swedish and thats why we have 2names for towns too..

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We have captured Helsinki and breached Saint Petersburg's fortifications

Mon May 26, 2014 8:40 am

Bronsart von Schllendorf captured Helsinki from the russians, what greatly boosted the support for Germany there. We have breached the fortifications of Saint Petersburg, our soldiers eagerly awaits the order for the assault! The war finally seems to be coming to an end.

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The russian have counter-attacked us near Smolensk, they have achieved a tactical victory as they forced von Stuepnagel forces to retreat, but they suffered heavy losses on the battle to conquer some few miles of basically useless territory in Orsha.

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The british have sent an offensive against us in Lome, but their forces had to retreat after suffering heavy losses! Unfortunately they seem to be preparing another thrust into Lome with a much stronger army commanded by Sir George Grieves.

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Alea iacta est

Mon May 26, 2014 8:50 am

We have sent the order for general Graf von Blumenthal to proceed with the plan for the assault on Saint Petersburg.

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Mon May 26, 2014 9:14 am

:thumbsup: cmoon kaiser Finnish are chearing for u..

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Mon May 26, 2014 10:51 am

HerrDan wrote:Partisans everywhere in Russia...

If you seize their capital (Saint Petersburg) expect dozens of them appearing everywhere. Yes, the NM of Russia will plummet and your warscore will go up considerably, but their resolve to harass will be very strong. Unless you have decent armed forced in every occupied region, expect heavy resistance.

Good thing the UK came into this war. I am curious to see what can they do.
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Mon May 26, 2014 8:11 pm

Kensai wrote:If you seize their capital (Saint Petersburg) expect dozens of them appearing everywhere. Yes, the NM of Russia will plummet and your warscore will go up considerably, but their resolve to harass will be very strong. Unless you have decent armed forced in every occupied region, expect heavy resistance.

Good thing the UK came into this war. I am curious to see what can they do.


Good to know that, but capturing Saint Petersburg will basically end the war as it will give us enough warscore to free Finland. I'm already having a lot of trouble with partisans, I need to keep troops guarding every important line of communication along the front.

The war with the british was unexpected, a crisis emerged and I chose to let the ai play the crisis cards for me, and the crisis went out of control, anyway Loki commented that by looking at the crisis intensity at the start of the crisis (87) it would be very hard to avoid war. The british are giving me a lot of headache, they have a powerful navy and they are wrecking havoc in my merchant fleet everywhere, besides I'm finding it very dificult to fight them in our colonies around the world. It's a great challenge to fight them, Italy and Austria didn't move a straw to help me until now, but anyway there's little Austria can do to help me, as they don't have oversea territories and their navy isn't nearly enough powerful to threat the british anywhere, but Italy could give us a hand in the mediterranean sea...

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Mon May 26, 2014 8:12 pm

havi wrote: :thumbsup: cmoon kaiser Finnish are chearing for u..


It's really great to know that the Finnish are by our side, but I fear I have some bad news to report you...later I'll update here and you'll find out what happened...

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Defeat at the gates of Saint Petersburg

Tue May 27, 2014 4:28 am

Our assault on Saint Petersburg turned into a major defeat in which we have suffered heavy casualties, this defeat made us rethink on our conduit of the war. We have therefore decided that we won't assault Saint Petersburg anymore as we can no longer sustain this rate of casualties in the face of the war with Great Britain, we shall besiege the city and let it starve until The Russian Empire surrender!

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We had to retreat from Petersburg to Novgorod, where we shall merge the remaining units of the 2nd army with the 1st army to resume the offensive against Saint Petersburg in June.

In Ukraine we have resumed our offensive operations as for the moment we will shift the focus of our offensives to Ukraine, where our 7th army is besieging Kiew. As you can probably see, there in Ukraine there's a lot of rebel activity.

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In China, the british have breached our fortress in Qingdao and we don't know for how long we'll be able to resist there...

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British forces are also besieging Lome, our commanders relief force is going to arrive withing 5 days, there are many canadian troops among the british forces, I hope they are inexperienced soldiers.

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Change of Plans

Tue May 27, 2014 5:26 am

We have commited Marshal Waldersee against the russian forces in Saint Petersburg, as with the situation deteriorating against the british we need to force the russians into submission the faster way possible, Waldersee's forces met some resistance when advancing into the territory lost to the russians in the Battle of Saint Petersburg, the russians tried to hold the positions they obtained from the battle, but in the end they couldn't resist the thrust of the third army with our most experienced troops. So we're now again besieging Saint Petersburg, while our marine forces coming from Finland under Bronsart von Schlleffendorf captured several strong positions in Viborg, further isolating the russian capital.

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The british have breached our fortifications in Lome, we'll try to land in Accra in a desperate attempt to force them to diverst some of their forces and avoid the fall of Lome.
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They have reinforced their position in Qingdao, we cannot possibly face a force this size in China!
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We have landed a Marine division in the solomon islands.
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