Ol' Choctaw wrote:Patrick Cleburne needs revised.
His proposal to free slaves and arm them did not result in major changes in his command. At most it should drop his Seniority rating but not make him a dispirited leader.
Others had proposed the same thing earlier in the war, to include Lee. It just didn’t make it into the news.
His date of rank was 4 March 1862 and the Dec date is when he was promoted to Major General.
He started in Arkansas.
wsatterwhite wrote:Late September/early October would probably be the best time for Cleburne to appear, though not officially promoted to Major General that corresponds with when he first held a divisional command under Kirby Smith. His only service in Arkansas was as a regimental officer early in the war, all his major commands were with the Army of Tennessee.
A few other suggestions-
AP Stewart should not show up until early 1863 at the earliest, he was just a brigade commander for all of 1862 and a bit into 1863
Thomas Hindman should not appear until mid-1862 (no earlier than April)
Ben Cheatham should probably appear in January 1862 if not earlier, while he was only promoted to Major General in March, I believe his status as a divisional commander well preceded that.
Simon Bolivar Buckner should appear in January 1862 if not earlier, I assume his later entry is intended to correspond with either his Donelson parole or his official promotion to Major General but he should definitely be available in February to be at Donelson
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Boomer wrote:I just don't understand what all the fuss is all about with improperly including generals that shouldn't be in command. If you don't like General so-and-so and think it wouldn't be historical or whatever to use them, don't. There's nothing stopping a player from NOT using a General once he's activated. Just ship the unwanted generals off to some remote region that will never see action and let them enjoy their new vacation spot.
In the end I'd rather have a lush and full resource pool to grab generals from than have good or desirable generals excluded simply because of a design decision or some other reason.
Eugene Carr wrote:Hope the list is of some interest and use.
Captain_Orso wrote: At it's inception the KKK was supposed to protect the South from the North trying to impose the "norther way of life" on them and to protect their "southern way of life". When it started turning into an "I hate Yankees, jews, n*ggers an' revenuers" club, he quit.
Pat "Stonewall" Cleburne wrote:Noone uses randomize generals, at least in PBEM. What about replacing it with a version where you don't see generals stats? Maybe make the stats slowly materialize over multiple battles?
... Upton was as good an artillery officer as could be found in any country, the equal of any cavalry commander of his day, and, all things considered, was the best commander of a division of infantry in either the Union or the rebel army. ... He was incontestably the best tactician of either army, and this is true whether tested by battle or by the evolutions of the drill field and parade. In view of his success of all arms of the service, it is not too much to add that he could scarcely have failed as a corps or army commander had it been his good fortune to be called to such rank. ... No one can read the story of his brilliant career without concluding that he had a real genius for war, together with all the theoretical and practical knowledge which any one could acquire in regard to it. Up to the time when he was disabled by the disease which caused his death he was, all things considered, the most accomplished soldier in our service. His life was pure and upright, his bearing chivalric and commanding, his conduct modest and unassuming, and his character absolutely without blemish. History cannot furnish a brighter example of unselfish patriotism, or ambition unsullied by an ignoble thought or an unworthy deed. He was a credit to the State and family which gave him birth, to the military academy which educated him, and to the army in which he served. So long as the Union has such soldiers as he to defend it, it will be perpetual.
— Maj. Gen. James H. Wilson, The Life and Letters of Emory Upton
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