I looked at the manual...

[Athens]

20 $ or Euros: the price of an avarage dinner. How much time will you play with PON? How much are thinking this game is worth?

I've concluded for my own 40 wouldn't be too much. I've bought it twice. I'm not rationale, and I earn well my life. Others have not the same point of view or the same possibilities. Howewer, when you can, from time to time, IMHO, it's time to pay the real price to get what we really want.

[ERISS]

Something worthy of note is that if you buy a game in a bargain bin, you have failed to send a signal to the people who paid for the development of the game that it is a good game that deserve expansions, many patches or even a 'volume II'.
Now, everybody will vote with his purse, but know that the post-PON future will be decided in some weeks, not in some months. So if you believe PON is either a good game already, or even a diamond in rough, you are better vote now, because now is the only time.

http://www.grimdawn.com/
That's "Titan Quest II". The devs received the signal on a long time, not some weeks. Ok, GD is not yet released.

[hgilmer]

Titanquest 2. I'm so there.

Edit: And I only discovered it about 4-5 years after it was out and I thought whoa where has this game been hiding?

[vaalen]

I also get a queezy stomach when I hear DLC but considering the intial price of the game I can get over it. I have enough self-control to avoid buying any DLC that I am not interested in; which will likely be most of them. My main interest is the Grand Campaign anyway since I really don't think that a game designed to to cover the entire world can adequately depict smaller conflicts to a satisfactory degree. I think the technological changes and their effects on military docrine make it likely that I won't play a GC past the FPW in any event. Not really sure how well the game will handle a WWI type scenario to be honest. I think the ACW, FPW, and WWI really need a dedicated game that only covers that specific conflict to do them full justice. Looking forward to the demo and release!

Actually, I am having a blast playing the Sepoy Mutiny scenario. I think it does an outstanding job of portraying the conflict, in detail. The need to take weather, and terrain , and supply, and the tiredness of your troops into account is all here, as are all the leaders, with their strengths and weaknesses. Not to mention an incredible order of battle, where you actually make decisions based on the particular characteristics of a unit, which vary widely. So many interesting decisions to make and a bad decision at a crucial juncture can cost you the game.

I have never bought DLC before, but I will buy all that they make for this superb game.

[Franciscus]

20 $ or Euros: the price of an avarage dinner. How much time will you play with PON? How much are thinking this game is worth?

I've concluded for my own 40 wouldn't be too much. I've bought it twice. I'm not rationale, and I earn well my life. Others have not the same point of view or the same possibilities. Howewer, when you can, from time to time, IMHO, it's time to pay the real price to get what we really want.

+1

I preordered from GG but I have just bought again PoN, via Ageod shop.
A perfectly racional decision , more so, because:
- I have bought all Ageod games to date, via their webshop, I felt bad PoN being the sole exception
- I want to install PoN on my laptop, and having to redownload via GG would be such a chore

[Athens]

+1

I preordered from GG but I have just bought again PoN, via Ageod shop.
A perfectly racional decision , more so, because:
- I have bought all Ageod games to date, via their webshop, I felt bad PoN being the sole exception
- I want to install PoN on my laptop, and having to redownload via GG would be such a chore

But, in the same time, I consider it's really really high time for Paradox France to change from some anterior errors yet committed with PON:

- especially putting a large volume of data is fine but such a work could have been maybe better used to squash bugs. It would have been interesting too to think about complexity issues rather than devise 500 leader special abilities whose only 10 to 20 have a real impact on the game
- design events which AI will be able to perform: the Perry event isn't broken, that's just theUS AI is unable to fulfill the conditions.The same for Pirna event in ROP...

And I could cite one or 2 others errors which are dooming each Paradox France release since AACW ( lack of reflexion about time/space ratio...). In the end, I recognize the Paradox France desire to get it right, and to deliver real historical games, but sadly they're unable to do that at the release date.

[Nikel]

But, in the same time, I consider it's really really high time for Paradox France to change from some anterior errors yet committed with PON:

- especially putting a large volume of data is fine but such a work could have been maybe better used to squash bugs. It would have been interesting too to think about complexity issues rather than devise 500 leader special abilities whose only 10 to 20 have a real impact on the game
- design events which AI will be able to perform: the Perry event isn't broken, that's just theUS AI is unable to fulfill the conditions.The same for Pirna event in ROP...

And I could cite one or 2 others errors which are dooming each Paradox France release since AACW ( lack of reflexion about time/space ratio...). In the end, I recognize the Paradox France desire to get it right, and to deliver real historical games, but sadly they're unable to do that at the release date.

Post of the year, but never thought it would be you who write it.

I am not saying that you are not right... but what happened?

[hgilmer]

The ONLY problem I have with DLC at this point is I want this team to get on to the next project and not be doing DLC content for this game.

I know I may not be in the majority on that feeling. I get the feeling, though, that the next 6 months to 1 year, will be spent on working out the kinks, adding new free stuff (like new leaders and new playable nations), and adding DLC.

This saddens me because I want a new game that is strategical, but on a lesser scale. The poll on the general discussion forum is exactly what I mean. I want an HYW, 30YW, WW1!!! (with AEGOD engine), or AACW2, Napoleon Campaigns 2, etc.

I like this game, but I am really looking forward to something like those selections.