Chris0827 wrote:Braxton Bragg was possibly the most hated general in the Confederacy, by both the generals and the soldiers under his command. In a meeting with the generals in his command and President Davis all the generals voted to remove Bragg as commander. The Dispirited leader ability is perfect for him.
Nathaniel wrote:I am sure I read this story somewhere about Bragg in his early years in the military.
He was both a company commander and quartermaster at a fort in the West .
As company commander he wrote to the quartermaster asking for more supplies, and then as quartermaster replied to himself saying he did not have them.
After an exchange of letters , he took the correspondence to the fort commander who exclaimed, "Captain Bragg you have quarreled with every officer in the army and now you are quarreling with yourself!
Obviously a tall tale, but it does show a consistent opinion on Bragg. He must be the worst and most unpopular general to have a major army camp named after him.
Chris0827 wrote:Forrest had a few things to say to Bragg.
"I am not here to pass civilities or compliments with you, but on other business. I have stood your meanness as long as i intend to. You have played the part of a damned scoundrel and are a coward, and if you were any part of a man I would slap your jaws and force you to resent it. You may as well not issue any more orders to me, for I will not obey them... and I say to you that if you ever again try to interfere with me or cross my path it will be at the peril of your life."
This was at the end of a long series of disputes. The final straw was Bragg ordering Forrest to serve under his hated rival Joe Wheeler.
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tagwyn wrote:I do not want to assume the role of supporter of Bragg, however, he is ill deserving of all this calumny!! Bragg won the battles of Perryville, Stone's River, and Chickamuga!! He could command an army and could win battles, however, he did not take advantage of his victories. Yes, he disagreeable, so was Forrest, but for different reasons. T
Brochgale wrote:If half of what I have read about the confederate commanders in west is correct - why did the yanks bother sending any troops out west- the confederates it seemed would have done a very good job of destroying themselves?
lycortas wrote:5-2-1 or 4-2-1 is how i rank Bragg. I have never read anything that suggested skill in choosing where to attack. The 'victories' he achieved were due to his subordinates not himself, especially Perryville.
Mike
Brochgale wrote:I would rank him even less than that 0 on defense for a start - Judging on his performance at Chatanooga?
Ace wrote:I hate to bring this old thread to life, but Bragg is by many considered as one of the worst generals on both sides (amongst top 10 worst generals of the war). One could argue that the resources given to him where inadequate, but 5/3/1 stats are way overrated. 4/2/0 (maybe even 3/1/0) with dispirited and quick angered describe him much better.
"I have stood your meanness as long as I intend to. You have played the part of a damned scoundrel, and are a coward, and if you were any part of a man I would slap your jaws and force you to resent it. You may as well not issue any more orders to me, for I will not obey them, and I will hold you personally responsible for any further indignities you endeavor to inflict upon me. You have threatened to arrest me for not obeying your orders promptly. I dare you to do it, and I say to you that if you ever again try to interfere with me or cross my path it will be at the peril of your life."
Stauffenberg wrote:Top 10 worst in terms of popularity is a given, but in terms of command performance? He was essentially competent as his record indicates, but with these odd lapses in judgement and an ever-increasing talent for irking others.
Ace wrote:Competent, you say. What about how he was outmaneuvered during Tullahoma Campaign, or how he allowed siege of Chattanooga to be lifted, when he held the higher ground, at Lookout Mountain and Missionary Ridge. And he also had more than enough time to prepare his defensive positions. It should have been the same outcome as when Burnside assaulted Mary´s Heights. That is what happens when CSA has able generals, both at army and Corps level.
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