How to combine Detachments / Armies?

[Dgold]

If I have an area where I have one or more Detachments and an Army HQ, is there a quick way to combine them?

The only way I know is to transfer the Detachment to the Army Reserve and then from the Reserve back to the Army HQ. This would only work with Detachments from the same Army HQ. How about combining Detachments originally from another Army HQ to a new Army HQ (in the same area).

Thanks.

[captainmatt]

Yes, detaching seems to be easy enough but combining is somewhat more difficult.

[calvinus]

If the two detachments are inside the same area, you can drag & drop one detachment over the second one. I mean the soldier representation on the map, of course. When doing so, a popup menu will appear, asking you which is the detachment you want to merge with.

Consider that merging detachments of different armies is not allowed. Instead you can try to assign a detachment to the other army before, provided no unit with "numbered army" is inside. To do so, you have to drag & drop the detachment using the right mouse key pressed. You will be so asked to select the army to which you want to assign the detachment.

[PDF]

About something related : can we (and how) transfer units from one army to another ? For example in Palestine scen one of the GB army is "full",a nd strangely this allows to put more corps into reserve but *not* to put them back to the front (maybe a bug ?).

Then I would like to "transfer" a corps out, but that does'nt seem possible either... Looked in the manual, but found nothing (again .. )
Found a kind of workaround by changing "main army" back&forth ... not very convincing ...

[calvinus]

About something related : can we (and how) transfer units from one army to another ? For example in Palestine scen one of the GB army is "full",a nd strangely this allows to put more corps into reserve but *not* to put them back to the front (maybe a bug ?).

Then I would like to "transfer" a corps out, but that does'nt seem possible either... Looked in the manual, but found nothing (again .. )
Found a kind of workaround by changing "main army" back&forth ... not very convincing ...

Yes... the original boardgame rules made this stuff very complex, and I'm really disappointed like you, sorry! I'm already feeling "forced" to change the PC game rules making them different from the original boardgame design!

You probably cannot move the units from the reserves to the front line because of stacking limits. For the same reason you cannot detach the reserve unit to the area... My suggestion is you disable the stacking limits rule! See the Options window...

[PJL]

Yes... the original boardgame rules made this stuff very complex, and I'm really disappointed like you, sorry! I'm already feeling "forced" to change the PC game rules making them different from the original boardgame design!

You probably cannot move the units from the reserves to the front line because of stacking limits. For the same reason you cannot detach the reserve unit to the area... My suggestion is you disable the stacking limits rule! See the Options window...

So does that mean the stacking limit rule only applies to army corps not in reserve, or the total number or corps (regardless of whether they are in reserve or not?)?

[PhilThib]

The units in the reserve are never counted for stacking limits (when in reserve only of course!)

[PDF]

That still makes not much sense : I have N corps in a army, I send one in reserve (now I have N-1), and still can't put another (or the same) reserve corps back to the army !

And what about transfering a corps from an army to another ? Not possible at all ? (strange? I suppose there was a lot of reorganizations in a 4+ years long war...)

[PJL]

The units in the reserve are never counted for stacking limits (when in reserve only of course!)

Doesn't that make the whole idea of stacking limits redundant then as you can simply put any excess in reserve, and then during the battle move the reserve into the rear section and then on the committed etc. Is there a limiit for how many units can be in reserve per army?

[Tamas]

Doesn't that make the whole idea of stacking limits redundant then as you can simply put any excess in reserve, and then during the battle move the reserve into the rear section and then on the committed etc. Is there a limiit for how many units can be in reserve per army?

Well limit is two or three units per HQ.

And Reserves is a key concept. Especially in Trench Warfare, when you are very far from having enough units in each space to sustain a concentrated enemy attack, but due to increased "reaction distance" of HQs, you can usually send in reserves from multiple HQs.

[calvinus]

Also, please check the tooltip of the "send to first line" button. It should tell the exact reason why you cannot send the unit to the first line... Here we are simply trying to guess the reason.

[Clovis]

from the game files

Drag & drop here your infantry units for combat commitments. Your artillery commitment Drag & drop here your artillery units to benefit from artillery support during combat round resolution. Your support units commitment Drag & drop here your support units (assault troops or tanks) to benefit from such support during combat round resolution. Your squadron commitment Drag & drop here your squadron units for combat commitments. Your squadron commitment Drag & drop here your squadron units for combat commitments. Enemy infantry commitment The enemy places here his infantry units for combat round commitments. Enemy artillery commitment The enemy places here his artillery units to benefit from artillery support during combat rounds resolution. Enemy support units commitment The enemy places here his support units (assault troops or tanks) to benefit from such support during combat rounds resolution. Enemy squadron commitment The enemy places here his squadron units for combat round commitments. Enemy squadron commitment The enemy places here his squadron units for combat round commitments. Committed unit is exhausted This unit has been commited during the previous combat round(s), so the morale of her troops is exausted. In case of a morale test, she will suffer from a malus. No second flank deployment is allowed Minor battles do not allow a second flank deployment. No second flank commitment is allowed Minor battles do not allow a second flank commitment. No commitment is allowed for support units Sieges do not allow a support units commitment. Unit is <yellow>immobilized</yellow> This unit is probably exahusted or shaken, so she can't be deployed nor committed into battle.

[Krasny]

If the two detachments are inside the same area, you can drag & drop one detachment over the second one. I mean the soldier representation on the map, of course. When doing so, a popup menu will appear, asking you which is the detachment you want to merge with.

That's not working for me.

I have yet to be able to merge units, or get this elusive popup window.

This is just in Tutorial 2.

This really is the most inscrutable game I have ever played.

How come something as simple as combining units is so goddamn hard?

I'm not a game designer, but wouldn't selecting the units you wish to merge, possibly using shift+click, then clicking on the merge button. Not original I know, but it works.

This game really reminds me of the vehicle Mr. Garrison designed in South Park.

[PDF]

Also, please check the tooltip of the "send to first line" button. It should tell the exact reason why you cannot send the unit to the first line... Here we are simply trying to guess the reason.

I was not talking about combat, but the main screen. Open Palestine scen, GB side, take the Vth Army (I believe it's this one, the non-main army).
Try to put a reserve unit in the army stack, you get "army has already max nr of corps" or stg like that. Put a unit of the Army stack in the reserve, it works, but then you still can't put any corps back to the army stack. Same with 2, 3, all units ! There's stg not working there ...