Synchronized move

[PeterPan]

Hi All,

I know that synchronized move works between two corps even if army HQ is not involved. But I still have a few questions :

- Is this working with three or more corps (I think so) ?
- Have the corps to be in the same region at start ?
- What if the final region is not the same for all the corps ?
- Is the synchronized movement automatic or is there a chance of failure ? In the second case, what are the parameters changing the odds ?

Thanks in advance.

[arsan]

Hi Peter! Welcome to the forums

Synchro move only works if the Army HQ is involved. Two corps is not enough.
The HQ plus any number of corps must begin in the same region and move to the same detination.
No point i doing Synchro when moving to different regions
Ii does not work if the corps/HQ are in different regions at turn start.

If all this conditions are met, Synchro move will be 100% successful. No rolling needed.
Regards!

[PeterPan]

Hi Arsan,

Thanks a lot for your fast answer. But now I'm a little bit puzzled because in this message Pocus wrote that two corps can move in synch without army HQ ?!?!

Regards

[arsan]

Hi

Well, now i'm puzzled too
Because i see i posted about the same back then on that thread, was corrected and i have forgotten about it
Pocus must know better than me as he developed the game
I think the rest of my answers are right but after this i'm not so sure of my knowledge anymore
Cheers

[Primasprit]

Two (or more) corps are enough, no HQ necessary. The corps however have to be attached to the same army.

[W.Barksdale]

I always use this order with the HQ. Mass everyone in the same region and issue the order them all to the same place. As far as I know it will work everytime and to great effect.

[PeterPan]

Two (or more) corps are enough, no HQ necessary. The corps however have to be attached to the same army.

Thanks.

And synch move is automatic (as explained by Arsan) ? Because in a recent game I got the feeling that when asking two nothern corps in two different regions to move to and attack the same region they did not attack at the same time, the whole move finishing in a bloody carnage

[W.Barksdale]

I'll bet your some of your corps had inactive commanders. I would not expect them to perform well if in this situation.

And next time attack with the whole army and not just two corps. Weight of numbers will decide when your commanders won't.

[arsan]

Thanks.

And synch move is automatic (as explained by Arsan) ? Because in a recent game I got the feeling that when asking two nothern corps in two different regions to move to and attack the same region they did not attack at the same time, the whole move finishing in a bloody carnage

Hi
There is your problem, Sync movement only works when the corps are in the SAME region.
(of that i'm 99,99% sure )
Not possible to coordinate movements form two different regions,
Regions re very big and communications back then were very limited.
As and alternative to this impossible coordination you can attack with one corps, send the other to a adjacent region and then cross your fingers and hope that the second corps support the battle by moving to the sound of the guns mechanism,
But its a gamble. A risky one...
Having good leaders in this case will help a lot, but even Lee, Jackson and Longstreet can fail you in these situations.
Regards

[Pocus]

Two (or more) corps are enough, no HQ necessary. The corps however have to be attached to the same army.

It's good to have Code Explorers active even the week-end! Go, go Primasprit, were no one but squirrels ever went!

To infinity and beyond!

[PeterPan]

To summarize, syncrhonized move is automatic (100% success) provided that :

- All corps (any number will work) belong to the same army.
- All corps start in the same region (but presence of army HQ is not mandatory).

[arsan]

To summarize, syncrhonized move is automatic (100% success) provided that :

- All corps (any number will work) belong to the same army.
- All corps start in the same region (but presence of army HQ is not mandatory).

And.... they all move to the same destination

[dooya]

It's good to have Code Explorers active even the week-end! Go, go Primasprit, were no one but squirrels ever went!
[...]

There is no place in the universe where squirrels have been and Dixicrat hasn't. Jellooooo!

[Jarkko]

Sorry for a slight necromancy, but I have a question regarding synchro-move.

I installed the demo (seems to be version 1.05b; I tiried to patch this, but after the patch I was asked for a serial-number, so I did reinstall the demo again), and done the tutorial a few times. Everything goes fine until the point where Grant has to lead the two corps (McClernand and Sherman) from Decatur to Madison via McNairy. Each time I do the synchronized move I get to see Grant makes the trip in 11 days, while the two corps make it in 13 days. What is worse, Grant ends up alone in Madison where he gets butt-whooped, while his two corps stay at McNairy. The demo text then tells me about the glorious but bloody victory I had, so I am pretty sure something went wrong. So I started the tutorial from start, and I get exactly the same result each time

I just can't figure what I am doing wrong

So, what am I doing wrong?

1) I select Grant
2) chose synchronised movement for the army
3) move first to McNairy
4) then to Madison
5) hit end turn

[Daxil]

I'll do a pre-emptive for Gray - you should zip and upload that turn so we can see your orders.

[Rafiki]

Hi Jarkko, and welcome to the forums

Though I don't use synchronized moves that much myself, so I can't pinpoint what might be causing your problems, I'd check to see that the corps that are to be moved synchronously also have the "synchronous move" button enabled.

[Jarkko]

I'd check to see that the corps that are to be moved synchronously also have the "synchronous move" button enabled.

Yes they have. Interestingly enough, the synchro move works in the other demo scenarios (and campaign), its just in the tutorial that I don't seem to make it work. Thus I am quite sure it is a bug with the tutorial. Not a biggie thus, but it sure as heck is confusing when trying to figure out things

[arsan]

Hi
Sorry if its a silly idea (i did the tutorials looong ago and don't remembr them very well :bonk but could it be that the corps were not from Grant's army? if i'm not mistaken, there was another army aroudn (Buell??).
When you select grant army stack, do the corps stack plse in red?? Thats pulsing means they are corps of the selected army.
Besides, are you sure the stack are proper corps (diamond icon over the stack counter) and not regular stacks?
Maybe you removed their corps status by mistake clicking on the wrong button
Regular stacks (non corps) shoudl not do sync move.
Cheers

[Jarkko]

Hi
Sorry if its a silly idea (i did the tutorials looong ago and don't remembr them very well :bonk but could it be that the corps were not from Grant's army? if i'm not mistaken, there was another army aroudn (Buell??).

Nope, they are from Grants army. Else they wouldn't even move you know you select Grant and ask him to make synchro move (those corps in his army then move automatically with Grant, you don't have to give them movement orders separately)

[arsan]

Hi

OK i see. I misunderstood the problem. I though the corps did not move at all. But rereading your message i see you explain they move but slowly that the HQ
I did the tutorials on version 1.00 or 1.01 and don't remember any problem like this.
Sorry, i'm out of ideas... don't know why it happens

[tagwyn]

And to think that I thought the corp units had to be in Command Range of the HQ, not same region? Silly me! apy:

[Jabberwock]

those corps in his army then move automatically with Grant, you don't have to give them movement orders separately

Are you sure?

[ohms_law]

For a "syncronized move", yea. You stary multiple Corp and an Army command in the same region, all with the sync command enabled, and you move the Army command. The Corp commands all move with the army, without explicit move orders, and everything arrives together.

I have no idea if that is the intent, but that's the way that it works (in 1.11d). I just tried it out in order to make sure. You can still use the sync move command for Corp and Army stacks that aren't together, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[ohms_law]

Yea, it makes sense to me. It limits the sync move order usefulness, but it's probably better that way anyway.