Sharpshooters overpowered?

[Daxil]

Average Cav the best unit to intercept them imo is power 22 with 1000 troops. A SS element is power 25 with 250 troops. Not only this, correct me if I'm wrong, but they're impossible to hunt down even if you have your cav set to intercept (like 10% odds).

IMO they should be more fragile, like 17 if a cav is 22. In closing I hate them. They are destroying my rail network! leure:

[Barker]

Waaaahhhhh....ahhhh Poor Baby him want a tissue....I know the feeling ...I get stomped...I use Cav on a consistant basis. Hav a Cav division form in Nashville...move up to Bowling Green, Have Polk take Cairo and Paducah and start moving North East...those dag gum SS are tearing me up though on my rail....I tried the same and mine get nabbed everytime. So I go in with the most and hopefully nail me some bluebellies on the way. Besides these 2 div have Price and Sibly going for San Francisco....

[Daxil]

My opponent's using them en masse. Instead of a Blitzkrieg I'm having a sharpshooterkrieg. They're like fricking roaches - everywhere.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[TheDoctorKing]

I agree with Daxil that sharpshooters can be a real hassle for the CSA. In my opinion they are too easy to get - price, time to produce, and number in the force pool. In fact, the Union only recruited a few dozen regiments of sharpshooters and they were all deployed with main armies in the field. The SVF mod makes them significantly more expensive and slow to produce, and that might be the way to slow this down in vanilla too.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[Jabberwock]

From my reading, there were maybe four regiments in the ANV by the time of the Overland Campaign that could've been considered sharpshooters. You guys are right, SS regiments were just too valuable to either army to spend much time running around independently (although AP Hill tried to use some as shock troops in the Wilderness, which was a waste ... wrong kind of SS).

It wasn't that they were expensive, it was a question of putting together the aptitude and training (didn't take long, but few could do it right - maybe Cleburne and C Wilcox for the rebels), so they were just rare. For the Union, there were Berdan's regiments and ... I'm sure there were some others that I haven't read about ...

Anyway, they should also be cheaper in conscripts as long as we're sticking with 250 man regiments - rejects went into line regiments no matter how you recruited these guys.

[Daxil]

I'll see what I can do about them. I just got a kick out of Daxil's post. Sometimes even a flaw can be amusing, especially if it's unintentional.

Thanks for looking into this. It's awesome that you guys continue to perfect a great game. If there was some sort of feasible strategy to counter them I'd be all for keeping them as is. As is, though, it appears there is no counter-strategy making the game unbalanced somewhat.

[AndrewKurtz]

My opponent's using them en masse. Instead of a Blitzkrieg I'm having a sharpshooterkrieg. They're like fricking roaches - everywhere.

Sounds like a very gamey tactic...

[Daxil]

Sounds like a very gamey tactic...

We're having a very gamey game. Trust me.

[Rafiki]

Screenshots, or it isn't happening!

(or to put in a slightly different way)

[Daxil]

Screenshots wouldn't do it justice because you cant see them most of the time. He probably had 5-10 plus 5-10 Cav. This has escalated. It started out big stacks, then the mass cav invasion. I checked those, then in 1863 the sharpshooters came.

[TheDoctorKing]

This has been my experience as well. The only thing you see from the perspective of the defender is that there is a sudden break in your rail line or a devastated region. This is especially true in eastern Tennessee where the people are likely to be pro-USA anyway so your detection values are lower. As the CSA it drives you nuts.

Paxil, maybe you could load the game up as the Union and take some screen shots for Rafiki?