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Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:31 pm

I'll check for replies on this, but this doesn't seem to be the busiest forum imaginable - somewhat puzzling. Is everyone waiting for 1.05?

Bought and installed 1.04c. Have played the '75 campaign as US up to Jan 1780. Played '76 as US for about eight turns. Opened a '78 campaign as US. Started a British '75 and what the heck, an 1812 overture as US.

Questions and comments:

* What the heck are the Naval Stores for in Philadelphia? I can see one element of Supply and three elements of Merchandise. Am I supposed to put these on the Transport and peddle them somewhere? Incidentally, these seem not to appear on the Roster.

* I read a thread about the 0/0 results with American privateers and commerce raiding. I can understand it if the elemental damage is so small it's not displayed, but, just for historical accuracy, I think a statement made in that thread is more than a little incorrect. Read Fletcher Pratt's The Navy (probably out of print) - American privateering played holy Hannah with British merchants in the Revolution and even more so in 1812. The modelling needs to be addressed in this particular case, I think. Again, do the research and I think you'll find that American commerce raiding was quite painful to British shipping.

* Is Boston a region, properly speaking? If so, why can Paul Revere not enter the town, or is that just a display issue? Why are American troops besieging Boston from Dorchester Heights (the region, not the physical reality - I'm from New England and am quite familiar with the events from April 75 to March 76)? Is the peninsula of Boston (no Back Bay then) considered to be so small that a battle ensues automatically, even when entering forces are Defensive?

* I don't see NM displayed in the Ledger for either side. Am I neglecting a tooltip?

* Do I have to move all allied troops or will they conduct some operations on their own?

* Will Canada actually join the Americans in any scenario, if the US is doing fantastically well?

* My '75 US game, now up to Jan 1780: what the ??? The British have made next to no effort, actually, really no effort to do a blessed thing. They just sit there in Quebec digging on the impegnable groove. The big excitement right now is to use the French to seize Quebec City and then Detroit for an automatic Win.

* The '76 US start is much more daunting - perfidious Albion is looking to put a hurt on me.

* '75 US again - lost Henry Knox's cannons to Winter (in fact, that march was made in the dead of winter, dragging cannons from Ticonderoga to Boston). shrugged, and dragged George & Co. from the Heights to Boston. British just left town, which is largely historical, but what happened? Did the British AI move elements out while I wasn't looking?

* '76 US, on the other hand - diametrically opposite. British are making a serious offensive push from Boston. Also have landed Cornwallis in Wilmington, NC.

Well, that's it for now. Oh, BTW - no Wiki? Also, where's the latest Beta patch, or is 1.04c as good as it gets right now? And is the community mod any later than 1.04c?

Thanks for all, and to all.

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Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:05 am

Hi!
Some answers…

* Naval stores are not mobile. They are there for you to protect and the enemy to take/destroy and gain VP from them. Not very important, just a little flavour thing.

* Yes Boston is a normal region, but small. So sometimes its difficult to aim with the stack and put the units inside or outside the town. But you can.
This region was added with the 1.04 patch, and the surrounding regions reorganized to better represent the Boston siege situation. Check this explanation of the issue
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showpost.php?p=128702&postcount=2

* Yes, of course you have to move allied units. As in all AGEOD games (up to the incoming VGN) there are only two sides in the game: yours and the enemy.

* No Canada won’t “join” as a nation. But the USA get some free Canadian volunteer units by event (on the 1776 winter if I recall correctly).

* No, no wiki. AACW is the only AGEOD game with wiki.

* There is no public beta patch available currently. Hope the 1.05 beta can be published soon.

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Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:27 pm

Thanks for the reply, Arsan. Some more feedback:

* Downloaded the community mod and started a '75 scenario as the Americans. Don't know if it's the mod or not, but a big difference compared to my vanilla '75 start. The British are trying to stamp out this rebellion, but how!

* When the odds looked good, in Aug 76, dragged Washington into the Boston region with some siege artillery. The siege icon was displayed. So maybe being in the Heights and seeing a statement about laying siege is just an anomaly.

* From what I see, NM is not that important in this game; at least it doesn't seem to play the same role that it does in AACW.
[color="#AFEEEE"]"Liberty and Union, now and forever, one and inseparable!"[/color]

-Daniel Webster



[color="#FFA07A"]"C'mon, boys, we got the damn Yankees on the run!"[/color]

-General Joseph Wheeler, US Army, serving at Santiago in 1898



RULES

(A) When in doubt, agree with Ace.

(B) Pull my reins up sharply when needed, for I am a spirited thoroughbred and forget to turn at the post sometimes.





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Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:15 am

GraniteStater wrote:T

* When the odds looked good, in Aug 76, dragged Washington into the Boston region with some siege artillery. The siege icon was displayed. So maybe being in the Heights and seeing a statement about laying siege is just an anomaly.



Hi
Maybe what you saw was a little pop up window explaining the historical situation of the "Boston Siege". it comes on turn one to give some historical background. Think of it as flavour, no "in game" info.
But with the new Boston Setup you don't actually (in game terms) siege Boston from the heights as they are separate regions. You just bottle the Brits there and force them to evacuate sooner or later as Boston region don't generate that much supply.

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Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:24 am

GraniteStater wrote:* Downloaded the community mod and started a '75 scenario as the Americans. Don't know if it's the mod or not, but a big difference compared to my vanilla '75 start. The British are trying to stamp out this rebellion, but how!


The community "mod" is in fact a BIG improvement project that will be an essential part of the forthcoming 1.5 patch :thumbsup:
The improvements are such that you will have a feeling that this is actually a new game. Try 1812 campaign without and with the community update :w00t:

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Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:35 pm

GraniteStater wrote:
* I don't see NM displayed in the Ledger for either side. Am I neglecting a tooltip?

* From what I see, NM is not that important in this game; at least it doesn't seem to play the same role that it does in AACW.


You can see NM at the top left corner of the main screen - although the tooltip is under review as it contains some erroneous information.

Obviously it has no effect on production in WiA and it will never lead to sudden death in the game (unless the scenario designer has made an event to force this).

It is something that you will want to keep as high as possible as scenarios can have events that are triggered at a certain NM level. Not sure if it has an effect on unit effectiveness in WiA?

Cheers, Chris

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