Is there any reason not to emancipate?

[Gresbeck]

Through emancipation (playing as the Union) I should get 150 VP, 5 NM, and I should lower chance of foreign intervention. Why should I decide not to emancipate?

[AndrewKurtz]

Through emancipation (playing as the Union) I should get 150 VP, 5 NM, and I should lower chance of foreign intervention. Why should I decide not to emancipate?

I ran into that last night. If I understand correctly, the dilema in real life (put into game terms) was that border states loyalty may drop.

Any risk of this in AACW?

[veji1]

If I remember correctly, emancipating to early (ie while the CSA looked like it was winning (before Antietam) or could still win (before Gettysburg)) would have looker like a last resort measure, showing the desperation of a Union in dire straits --> loss of national moral, loss of loyalty in bordering states, etc....

This is why it was postponed till after Gettysburg IRL.

so I guess there should be a minimum national moral to reach before being allowed to activate this political decision, say 120 ?

If activated too early, this should provoke a loss in NM, and a surge in confederate NM...

[AndrewKurtz]

If I remember correctly, emancipating to early (ie while the CSA looked like it was winning (before Antietam) or could still win (before Gettysburg)) would have looker like a last resort measure, showing the desperation of a Union in dire straits --> loss of national moral, loss of loyalty in bordering states, etc....

This is why it was postponed till after Gettysburg IRL.

so I guess there should be a minimum national moral to reach before being allowed to activate this political decision, say 120 ?

If activated too early, this should provoke a loss in NM, and a surge in confederate NM...

One option would be to say the declaration needs to follow within two turns of a Union victory that results in a NM boost, otherwise it has a negative impact...

[Mr Dimbleby]

If I remember correctly, emancipating to early (ie while the CSA looked like it was winning (before Antietam) or could still win (before Gettysburg)) would have looker like a last resort measure, showing the desperation of a Union in dire straits --> loss of national moral, loss of loyalty in bordering states, etc....

This is why it was postponed till after Gettysburg IRL.

so I guess there should be a minimum national moral to reach before being allowed to activate this political decision, say 120 ?

If activated too early, this should provoke a loss in NM, and a surge in confederate NM...

The Emancipation Proclomation was issued after Antietam, and went into effect on 1 January 1863.

[veji1]

ooppss, got mixed up with the Gettysburg speech I guess...

[saintsup]

In the same sort of questions:

Is there any reason for CSA to move its capitol ?

[veji1]

Well if you are about to lose Richmond, you better move it or take a "massive" NM loss...

[runyan99]

so I guess there should be a minimum national moral to reach before being allowed to activate this political decision, say 120 ?

If activated too early, this should provoke a loss in NM, and a surge in confederate NM...

I'd like to see something like that.

[saintsup]

Well if you are about to lose Richmond, you better move it or take a "massive" NM loss...

My question is why moving TO richmond from the 1st capitol which is way behind the lines ...

[runyan99]

That happens automatically around the historical date at no cost. You must not have played very much if you haven't come across that yet.

[Pocus]

re Emancipation:

You can't declare it before late 62 and only if you have a morale high enough.

Side effects: you lose loyalty in the border states, as historical.

[runyan99]

re Emancipation:

You can't declare it before late 62 and only if you have a morale high enough.

That's good. How high?

[AndrewKurtz]

re Emancipation:

You can't declare it before late 62 and only if you have a morale high enough.

Side effects: you lose loyalty in the border states, as historical.

Excellent.

[Pocus]

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[Mr Dimbleby]

re Emancipation:

You can't declare it before late 62 and only if you have a morale high enough.

Side effects: you lose loyalty in the border states, as historical.

Is there a side effect that represents the regiments that deserted en masse after the E.P. was announced?

[runyan99]

subliminal message for would-be modders here

Thanks for the screen.

80 Morale strikes me as a little too easy for the USA to achieve. I'd suggest 100 as a more fair level.

[Pocus]

this has been set at 80 so that the AI has a chance to trigger it too...

[Conhugeco]

Is there a side effect that represents the regiments that deserted en masse after the E.P. was announced?

Yes - they don't because they didn't.

Dick