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Thu May 19, 2011 9:00 pm

To be fair, I'll write here the same comment I did to Sedgwick :

Don't forget to add at least one supply wagon to your corps (or any force you see fit) as it will provide a bonus in battle and allow supply to be moved up to your force (as long as it is not too far away from a supply source).

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Longshanks
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Thu May 19, 2011 9:26 pm

I use a screen capture function of a graphics program and then upload it to imageshack.com (free). They then automatically provide the URL link script for use on the forum. You copy that, then paste it. Viola! pics!

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Yellowhammer
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Location: Huntsville, Alabama

Fri May 20, 2011 1:54 am

Jim-NC and Mickey3D and Longshanks - I used JPG compression and resized. I used to use imageshack but now use the 'GrayLensman' linked method. I'm trying to avoid a picture that makes the screen too wide. The main point about that image is the destroyed elements. I hope to have another picture to try soon ;)

Mickey3D - thanks for the tip. I keep Supply wagons with each Army and Corps (and other units), plus with fort or city garrisons (inside - helps keep them from surrendering). I usually don't outrun my Supply except for the occasional failed raid.

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Fri May 20, 2011 1:56 am

TURN 52 – Late May 1863

USA NM = 78
CSA NM = 127
Foreign Help = -21
Prisoners of War CSA 6700
USA Combat losses = 135913
CSA Combat losses = 112149
USA VP = 2108
CSA VP = 2133
USA VP per turn = 36
CSA VP per turn = 55

Messages:
Navy fleets inflicted 18 hits return 2

Battle of Charlottesville VA – Union Victory
USA Hooker Corps 35730 men 7926 horse 320 cannon vs CSA Lee Army 13442 men 3657 horse 64 cannon
USA loss 5658 men 707 horse vs CSA loss 4581 men 1168 horse
USA +2 NM
Lee retreated to Culpeper - note that Hill and Anderson divisions were sent from from Johnson Corps at Louisa to join Lee at Charlottesville - they did join Lee, just in time to retreat to Culpeper.

Battle of Hard KY – Union Defeat
USA Sheridan 4280 men 4194 horse 12 cannon vs CSA 2970 men
USA loss 492 men 492 horse vs CSA loss 584

Battle of Meade KY – Union Defeat
USA Grierson 1729 men 1644 horse 12 cannon vs CSA 2400 men
USA loss 123 men 123 horse vs CSA 123 men

CSA captured Winchester VA
Saber BDE to Henrico VA

Intel:
CSS AL and CSS FL
6 brigs in Atlantic Blockade
9+ brigs in Gulf Blockade
Hoke at Norfolk
Forney Corps PWR 979 at Williamsburg
Longstreet Corps PWR 1054 at Hanover
Johnson Corps PWR 1315 at Louisa
Lee Army PWR 1153 at Culpeper (Lee somehow got Hill and Anderson from Johnson)
Jackson Corps at Winchester
CSA at Prestonburg
Stuart unaccounted
Johnston Army PWR 1053 at Cincinnati OH
Smith Corps at Dearborn IN
Polk Corps PWR 1776 at Mercer KY
Stevenson PWR 527 at Louisville KY
McLaw PWR 177 at Bowling Green KY
Johnston Army at Paducah
CSA at Columbus KY

Dispositions:
Hooker to Fredericksburg
McDowell to Washington
Halleck to Manassas
Buell to Dayton
Schenk to Columbus
Repairing rail and chasing raiders

Replacements: 2 Elite Infantry 3 Infantry 2 Cavalry

Economics: MO industrialization

Four more turns until Drafts, Financial, Politics options become available (16 turns for Mobilization)

Lee is ‘cut off’ at Culpeper, however with Jackson Corps at Winchester and Stuart the effect is that McClellan has a strong army in his rear. McClellan believes that Lee must attack Union defensive positions or go around through rough terrain (mountain currently mud) – all while getting low on supply. Lee and Jackson may try for Manassas or Washington – McClellan is reinforcing those cities. BTW knowing Jackson’s location is a relief.

Forces are preparing for a general attack in Kentucky.

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Fri May 20, 2011 6:27 pm

TURN 53 – Early June 1863

USA NM = 75
CSA NM = 135
Foreign Help = -20
Prisoners of War CSA 6700
USA Combat losses = 142214
CSA Combat losses = 114909
USA VP = 2144
CSA VP = 2254
USA VP per turn = 36
CSA VP per turn = 55

Messages:
St Louis +4 WS
Denver Depot finished

Battle of Manassas – Union Defeat
USA Whipple 7201 men 600 horse vs CSA Lee Army and Jackson Corps 31154 men 5856 horse 117 cannon
USA loss 3044 men 61 horse vs CSA loss 1322 men 215 horse
CSA captured Manassas

Battle of Alexandria – Union Defeat
USA Whipple 6062 men 540 horse 8 cannon vs CSA Stuart 13696 men 11576 horse 88 cannon
USA loss 615 men (including 200 POW with 1 infantry element destroyed) vs CSA loss 61 men 61 horse
USA -1 NM

Battle of Alexandria – Union Defeat
USA Sykes 1921 men 8 cannon vs CSA Stuart 13636 men 11516 horse 88 cannon
USA loss 1846 men (including 800 POW with 3 infantry elements destroyed) vs CSA 1107 men 1107 horse
USA -3 NM
CSA captured Fort Batteries
CSA captured Alexandria
Sykes blamed for defeat

Battle of Alexandria – Union Defeat
USA Halleck Corps 21803 men 2976 horse 12 cannon vs CSA Stuart 12676 men 10436 horse 96 cannon
USA loss 953 men 492 horse vs CSA loss 338 men 338 horse

CSS AL 1 hit on Palmer return 1 hit
Draft Riots in New England (-15 loyalty and -5 WS and -20 Ammo and -20 GS in Boston)
Lightning BDE at Lexington KY

Intel:
CSS AL and CSS FL at Shipping
Hoke at Norfolk
Forney Corps PWR 936 at Williamsburg
Longstreet Corps PWR 1028 at Hanover
Beauregard Army at Richmond
Johnson Corps PWR 1248 at Louisa
Lee Army PWR 1022 and Jackson Corps PWR 367 at Manassas
Stuart PWR ~350 at Alexandria
Bee at Shenandoah
CSA at Prestonburg KY
Johnston Army PWR 1001 at Cincinnati
Smith Corps PWR 834 at Dearborn IN
Polk Corps PWR 1714 at Mercer KY
Stevenson PWR 598 at Louisville
Johnston Army at Paducah KY
CSA at Columbus KY

Dispositions:
McClellan to Stafford
Halleck to Fredericksburg
Meade to attack Lee and Jackson at Manassas through Culpeper
Grant Army and Buell Corps to simultaneously attack Johnston at Cincinnati
Keyes Corps and Thomas Corps to simultaneously attack Polk at Mercer KY
Schenck Corps to attack Smith at Dearborn IN

Replacements: 4 Infantry 1 Cavalry

Economics: MO industrialization; 20 locomotives

McDowell Corps made it to Washington before Alexandria fell, however Franklin Corps inside the Fort could have defeated a CSA attack. The CSA Lee Army and Jackson Corps are at Manassas with Stuart at Alexandria – all of them hungry, tired, and low on ammo. Halleck Corps is attempting to retreat from Manassas to Fredericksburg. McClellan Army to Stafford to block that route and provide support. Meade is attacking Manassas through Culpeper. The CSA has nowhere to go except into the Blue Ridge Mountains (or maybe cross the Potomac into Maryland). The CSA could try to relieve Lee’s Army by attacking with forces protecting Richmond.

ZERO turns to Draft, Financial, and Politics Options! IIRC there’s a bug in the countdown, however I’m looking forward to recruiting new troops.

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Yellowhammer
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Fri May 20, 2011 6:28 pm

TURN 54 – Late June 1863

USA NM = 78
CSA NM = 138
Foreign Help = -19
Prisoners of War CSA 6600
USA Combat losses = 157920
CSA Combat losses = 126114
USA VP = 2180
CSA VP = 2213
USA VP per turn = 37
CSA VP per turn = 53

Messages:
Lexington MO +15 GS

Battle of Winchester – Union Victory
USA Berry 6422 men vs CSA 450 men
USA loss 61 men vs CSA loss 246 men
USA captured Winchester

USA captured Manassas

Battle of Dearborn IN – Union Defeat
USA Schenk Corps 14793 men 3756 horse 60 cannon vs CSA Johnston Army and Smith Corps 33217 men 5510 horse 128 cannon
USA loss 1353 men 338 horse vs CSA loss 1014 men 123 horse

Battle of Mercer KY – Union Defeat
USA Keyes Corps and Thomas Corps 37188 men 14944 horse 270 cannon vs CSA Polk Corps and Holmes Corps 44941 men 5960 horse 184 cannon
USA loss 10563 men 3966 horse (including 1000 POW with 3 infantry and 1 cavalry element destroyed) vs CSA loss 4504 men 399 horse
USA -5 NM
Keyes and Streight blamed for defeat

Battle of Cincinnati OH – Union Defeat
USA Grant Army and Buell Corps 29884 men 7641 horse 119 cannon vs CSA Johnston Army and Smith Corps 32227 men 5390 horse 128 cannon
USA loss 4089 men 338 horse vs CSA loss 5596 men 1014 horse (with 2 infantry elements destroyed)
USA -2 NM
Buell, Dodge, and Gibbon congratulated for victory

USA captured Grafton WV

Battle of Keokuk IA – Union Victory
USA 750 men vs CSA Sibley 601 men 600 horse
USA loss 30 men vs CSA loss 123 men 123 horse

West Virginia admitted to Union (+5 NM)
West Virgina becomes 35th State (+15% loyalty)
IA Cavalry raised to react to raid

Intel:
Forney Corps PWR 1014 at Williamsburg
Beauregard Army at Richmond
Longstreet Corps at Hanover
Johnson Corps at Louisa
Lee Army at Charlottesville
Bee at Shenandoah
CSA at Prestonburg KY
Johnston Army PWR 840 at Cincinnati
Smith Corps PWR 675 at Dearborn IN
Polk Corps PWR 1535 at Mercer KY
Holmes Corps PWR 1251 at Louisville
Johnston Army at Paducah
CSA at Columbus KY

Dispositions:
Meade to assault Charlottesville
McDowell to Manassas
McClellan to Fredericksburg
Keyes and Thomas to Clarksburg KY (evacuate Lexington – supply – BDE stay-behind to destroy depot)
Schenk to Dayton OH
Fremont Army to destroy New Albany depot then reinforce Evansville.

Draft: Call for Volunteers with $1K bounty (+221 Conscript)

Financial: none

Politics: Total Blockade (+$50K +15 VP +1 NM)

Replacements: 1 Elite Infantry 6 Infantry 2 Cavalry

Economics: 50 locomotives

Reinforcements:
2 PA 2IAC BDE
2 PA 2ISS BDE
Army (WDC)
Eng and Med and Signal (I Corps)
WI 2IC BDE
4 NE Brig (blockade)
4 NE Frigate (blockade)

Lee Army slipped away (I’m not sure how). McClellan will rest and resupply planning to hit the Beauregard Army Richmond defenses before Lee Army reforms.

The Kentucky theater is a problem. Even with Grant Army adding two divisions, the Union is outnumbered (and out-positioned). Supply at Lexington is low, so Keyes and Thomas must evacuate to Clarksburg then cross the Ohio – those two Corps will need time to rest and resupply – if they make it to safety.

Fremont Army will command the Cairo and Evansville Forts and theater; Grant Army has assumed command of the Kentucky theater.

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Fri May 20, 2011 6:46 pm

Not only is there a problem in Kentucky, I'm outnumbered in Virginia. How in the world does that happen? I don’t have very many unlocked forces that are not on the front line.

I need to fundamentally reassess my approach. This is going wrong and I need to figure out how to turn it around…

In the East, I have McClellan at Fredericksburg with two strong Corps (Hooker 4 divisions at Albemarle and Meade 4 divisions at Culpeper) and four weak Corps (Kearny 2 divisions at Fredericksburg and Halleck 2 divisions soon-to-be at Manassas and McDowell 1 division soon-to-be at Alexandria and Franklin 1 division-size locked at Washington). I have depots at Fredericksburg and Manassas and Washington.

On the Peninsula, I have Butler Army and Wallace Corps 4 weak division at James City VA plus French Corps 1 division locked at Fort Monroe.

In the Kentucky theater, I have Grant Army and Buell Corps 2 division and Schenk Corps 2 division at Dayton OH. Keyes Corps 2 division and Thomas Corps 2 division are retreating to Clarksburg and will join Grant Army -if- they make it; both are combat ineffective for at least a month.

In the Illinois theater, I have Fremont Army 1 division and Crittenden Corps 1 fort garrison division at Fort Evansville IN. I have Rosecrans Corps 1 division and Pope Corps 1 fort garrison division at Fort Cairo IL.

In Missouri, I have Banks Army 1 fort garrison division and Sumner Corps 1 weak division at St Louis.

Total other unlocked forces (Pittsburg and Grafton and other garrisons and raider-chasers and such) equal maybe PWR 1000.

There is a 60 point spread in National Morale.

Thankfully, foreign engagement is unlikely.

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Longshanks
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Fri May 20, 2011 8:54 pm

I have very much enjoyed reading your accounts. I'm in my first PBEM and although I'm playing the CSA, I'm having similar challenges against an experienced player. Your personal morale seems to stay tough, although it's got to be disheartening when you get all those battle reports.

I like your format so much, I'll be following it closely when I start my AAR this weekend. I hope you enjoy reading it half as much as I have this one!

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Fri May 20, 2011 10:52 pm

Longshanks - thanks - I'm enjoying the game.

About morale: I do get pissed IRL about some of the gameplay, like how can Lee escape and my guys not escape? Even if I lose a battle, if my preparation and movement was 'correct' or 'good' then it feels better. However, it's just a game (albeit one that I want to win). Most importantly, the only battle I really care about winning is the last battle (in other words I believe that I can crush the CSA armies - and I have a revised plan to do it).

The format follows the game reporting and analysis: Objective summary, message summary, enemy strength and location, friendly force movement, and other stuff (replacements, drafts, economics, etc). Having a routine helps ensure that nothing gets forgotten, plus I have a record of enemy strength to review for changes.

I'll definitely read your AAR.

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Sun May 22, 2011 6:13 pm

TURN 54 – Late June 1863

USA NM = 78
CSA NM = 138
Foreign Help = -19
Prisoners of War CSA 6600
USA Combat losses = 157920
CSA Combat losses = 126114
USA VP = 2180
CSA VP = 2213
USA VP per turn = 37
CSA VP per turn = 53

Messages:
Lexington MO +15 GS

Battle of Winchester – Union Victory
USA Berry 6422 men vs CSA 450 men
USA loss 61 men vs CSA loss 246 men
USA captured Winchester

USA captured Manassas

Battle of Dearborn IN – Union Defeat
USA Schenk Corps 14793 men 3756 horse 60 cannon vs CSA Johnston Army and Smith Corps 33217 men 5510 horse 128 cannon
USA loss 1353 men 338 horse vs CSA loss 1014 men 123 horse

Battle of Mercer KY – Union Defeat
USA Keyes Corps and Thomas Corps 37188 men 14944 horse 270 cannon vs CSA Polk Corps and Holmes Corps 44941 men 5960 horse 184 cannon
USA loss 10563 men 3966 horse (including 1000 POW with 3 infantry and 1 cavalry element destroyed) vs CSA loss 4504 men 399 horse
USA -5 NM
Keyes and Streight blamed for defeat

Battle of Cincinnati OH – Union Defeat
USA Grant Army and Buell Corps 29884 men 7641 horse 119 cannon vs CSA Johnston Army and Smith Corps 32227 men 5390 horse 128 cannon
USA loss 4089 men 338 horse vs CSA loss 5596 men 1014 horse (with 2 infantry elements destroyed)
USA -2 NM
Buell, Dodge, and Gibbon congratulated for victory

USA captured Grafton WV

Battle of Keokuk IA – Union Victory
USA 750 men vs CSA Sibley 601 men 600 horse
USA loss 30 men vs CSA loss 123 men 123 horse

West Virginia admitted to Union (+5 NM)
West Virgina becomes 35th State (+15% loyalty)
IA Cavalry raised to react to raid

Intel:
Forney Corps PWR 1014 at Williamsburg
Beauregard Army at Richmond
Longstreet Corps at Hanover
Johnson Corps at Louisa
Lee Army at Charlottesville
Bee at Shenandoah
CSA at Prestonburg KY
Johnston Army PWR 840 at Cincinnati
Smith Corps PWR 675 at Dearborn IN
Polk Corps PWR 1535 at Mercer KY
Holmes Corps PWR 1251 at Louisville
Johnston Army at Paducah
CSA at Columbus KY

Dispositions:
Meade to assault Charlottesville
McDowell to Manassas
McClellan to Fredericksburg
Keyes and Thomas to Clarksburg KY (evacuate Lexington – supply – BDE stay-behind to destroy depot)
Schenk to Dayton OH
Fremont Army to destroy New Albany depot then reinforce Evansville.

Draft: Call for Volunteers with $1K bounty (+221 Conscript)

Financial: none

Politics: Total Blockade (+$50K +15 VP +1 NM)

Replacements: 1 Elite Infantry 6 Infantry 2 Cavalry

Economics: 50 locomotives

Reinforcements:
2 PA 2IAC BDE
2 PA 2ISS BDE
Army (WDC)
Eng and Med and Signal (I Corps)
WI 2IC BDE
4 NE Brig (blockade)
4 NE Frigate (blockade)

Lee Army slipped away (I’m not sure how). McClellan will rest and resupply planning to hit the Beauregard Army Richmond defenses before Lee Army reforms.

The Kentucky theater is a problem. Even with Grant Army adding two divisions, the Union is outnumbered (and out-positioned). Supply at Lexington is low, so Keyes and Thomas must evacuate to Clarksburg then cross the Ohio – those two Corps will need time to rest and resupply – if they make it to safety.

Fremont Army will command the Cairo and Evansville Forts and theater; Grant Army has assumed command of the Kentucky theater.

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Sun May 22, 2011 6:15 pm

TURN 55 – Early July 1863

USA NM = 80
CSA NM = 140
Foreign Help = 8
Prisoners of War CSA 6500
USA Combat losses = 168405
CSA Combat losses = 137004
USA VP = 2232
CSA VP = 2297
USA VP per turn = 36
CSA VP per turn = 53

Messages:
Blockade displeases British (foreign engagement +14)
CSA Exceptional taxes
CSA 8% War Bonds
CSA Call for Volunteers
CSA embargo +14 British Engagement

Battle of Culpeper VA – Union Victory
USA Hooker Corps and Meade Corps 75190 men 14568 horse 504 cannon vs CSA Jackson Corps 26110 men 4491 horse 96 cannon
USA loss 8548 men 553 horse vs CSA loss 6365 men 799 horse
USA +2 NM

Battle of Alexandria VA – Union Victory
USA Pratt 8767 men 1272 horse 24 cannon vs CSA 120 men 8 cannon
USA loss 0 men vs CSA loss 0 men
Fort batteries captured
USA captured Alexandria

Battle of Albemarle VA – Union Victory
USA Hooker Corps and Meade Corps 66850 men 14028 horse 504 cannon vs CSA Lee Army (Stuart and Forrest) 26957 men 14694 horse 120 cannon
USA loss 2167 men 369 horse vs CSA loss 4551 men 3351 horse
USA +1 NM

Battle of Lima OH – Union Victory
USA 750 men vs CSA Quantrill 301 men 300 horse
USA loss 0 men vs CSA loss 184 men 184 horse

Battle of Lima OH – Stalemate
USA 750 men vs CSA Quantrill 121 men 120 horse
USA loss 0 men vs CSA loss 0 men

Battle of Lima OH – Union Victory
USA 750 men vs CSA Quantrill 121 men 120 horse
USA loss 30 men vs CSA loss 61 men 61 horse

Gibraltar BDE to Dayton OH
Flood loss of river transport

Intel:
Forney Corps PWR 1138 at Williamsburg
Longstreet Corps PWR 1121 at Hanover
Beauregard Army at Richmond
Johnson Corps PWR 1331 at Louisa
Lee Army and Jackson Corps PWR ~1700 and Stuart PWR ~1300 at Charlottesville
CSA at Prestonburg KY
Johnston Army PWR 1005 at Cincinnati
Smith Corps PWR 1243 at Dearborn IN
Polk Corps at Mercer KY
Holmes Corps at Louisville
Johnston Army at Paducah KY
CSA at Columbus KY

Dispositions:
Housekeeping in the East (optimizing divisions to 18 elements with at least 4 arty and 1 cavalry and 1 sharpshooter per division; putting high morale units in each division; ensuring that Corps have at least 2 arty and 1 cavalry and amphibious capability)
Thomas Corps 2 division and Keyes Corps 2 division retreating to Clarksburg KY and Ironton OH
Wallace Corps 1 division to Fort Monroe
Butler Army 3 weak division at James City
Chasing raiders and repairing rail

Replacements: 2 Infantry 2 Cavalry 2 Field Arty

Unexpectedly, Lee Army didn’t need time to rest and resupply before attacking.

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Yellowhammer
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Sun May 22, 2011 6:15 pm

TURN 56 – Late July 1863

USA NM = 82
CSA NM = 138
Foreign Help = 7
Prisoners of War CSA 6400
USA Combat losses = 172773
CSA Combat losses = 143694
USA VP = 2268
CSA VP = 2257
USA VP per turn = 35
CSA VP per turn = 54

Messages:
CSA captured New Albany IN
CSA captured Lexington KY
WI BDE to Carlyle IL
PA BDE to Pittsburgh
PA BDE to Pittsburgh
CSA captured Ironton OH

Battle of Clarksburg KY – Union Victory
USA Keyes Corps and Thomas Corps 37311 men 15646 horse 288 cannon vs CSA Polk Corps 44487 men 6039 horse 198 cannon
USA loss 3413 men 645 horse vs CSA loss 6488 men 1014 horse
USA +2 NM
Shields congratulated for victory

Battle of Clarksburg KY – Union Defeat
USA Keyes Corps and Thomas Corps 28958 men 12920 horse 257 cannon vs CSA Polk Corps 38157 men 5049 horse 198 cannon
USA loss 1063 men 24 horse 12 cannon (including 700 POW with 1 Infantry 2 Militia 1 Lt Arty element destroyed – the KY BDE under construction) vs CSA loss 369 men)

NY Draft Riots (-15 loyalty -5 WS -20 Ammo and GS)

Intel:
Hoke at Norfolk
Forney Corps PWR 1213 at Williamsburg
Longstreet Corps PWR 1160 at Hanover
Beauregard Army at Richmond
Johnson Corps PWR 1331 at Louisa
Lee Army and Corps and Corps at Charlottesville
Hindman PWR 491 at Ironton OH
Polk Corps PWR 1588 at Clarksburg KY
Johnston Army PWR 420 and Smith Corps PWR 680 at Boone KY
Holmes Corps at Louisville
Johnston Army at Paducah KY
CSA at Columbus KY

Dispositions:
Keyes Corps (retreated to Harrison KY) to US-controlled Rowan KY then Morgan KY (Ohio River blocked)
Thomas Corps (at Clarksburg) to Us-controlled Morgan KY then Prestonburg (Ohio River blocked)
Porter fleet to Clover Creek (surprise!)
Grant Army and Buell Corps to Cincinnati
Schenk Corps to Ironton
Fremont Army to Cairo IL

Replacements: 1 Elite Infantry 4 Infantry 1 cavalry 1 Lt Arty 1 Field Arty

Porter and Dupont made the run through the Great Lakes to Pittsburgh and have been waiting for a CSA fleet.

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Sun May 22, 2011 6:16 pm

TURN 57 – Early August 1863

USA NM = 83
CSA NM = 137
Foreign Help = 7
Prisoners of War CSA 6400
USA Combat losses = 173643
CSA Combat losses = 146232
USA VP = 2316
CSA VP = 2311
USA VP per turn = 35
CSA VP per turn = 56

Messages:
Battle of Westmoreland VA – Union Victory
USA Couch 6451 men vs CSA Clark 1051 men
USA loss 123 men vs CSA loss 461 men

CSA captured Winchester VA

Battle of Clarksburg KY – Union Victory
USA Thomas Corps 19649 men 9779 horse 167 cannon vs CSA Smith Corps 20884 men 3116 horse 111 cannon
USA loss 768 men 307 horse vs CSA loss 1937 men 184 horse
USA +1 NM
Thomas congratulated for victory

2 PA BDE to Fredericksburg
USA captured Winchester VA

Battle of Sandy Confluent – Union Victory
USA Porter fleet 2366 men 162 cannon vs CSA fleet 198 men 6 cannon
USA loss 0 men vs CSA loss 198 men 6 cannon (with 1 gunboat and 2 transport elements destroyed)

USA captured Cincinnati
CSA captured Winchester
CSA captured Harpers Ferry
US Navy inflicted total 15 hits being hit total 2

Intel:
CSS AL and CSS FL at Shipping
5 Brig at Atlantic Blockade
9+ Brig at Gulf Blockade
Hoke at Norfolk
Forney Corps PWR 1242 at Williamsburg
Longstreet Corps PWR 1145 at Hanover
Johnson Corps PWR 1521 at Louisa
Lee Army and Corps at Charlottesville
Stuart Corps PWR 1307 at Harpers Ferry
Bonham PWR 97 at Prestonburg KY
Van Dorn at Morgan KY
Hindman PWR 504 at Ironton OH
Polk Corps PWR 1113 and Smith Corps PWR 1054 at Bracken KY
Johnston Army and Corps at Boone KY
Holmes Corps at Lexington KY
Stevenson at Louisville
Johnston Army at Paducah KY
CSA at Columbus KY

Dispositions:
McDowell to Washington
Wallace to Washington
Porter fleet to Levisa River
Thomas Corps to assault Prestonburg KY
Keyes Corps to Prestonburg (27 days)
Buell to join Schenk at Ironton OH
Gillmore forms division at Cairo

Replacements: 2 Infantry 2 cavalry 1 Lt Arty 2 Field Arty

Porter fleet will try to clean up 3 small CSA fleets and help clear river crossing for Thomas and Keyes. Grant needs to save those two Corps.

Buell will continue to Washington as soon as practicable to command the area defenses.

CSA Stuart Cavalry can take almost any city they choose (except Washington) but can’t hold on to it. IMO Pittsburgh or maybe Annapolis or Baltimore are under the greatest threat – but I hope he tries for Washington.

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Sun May 22, 2011 6:18 pm

TURN 58 – Late August 1863

USA NM = 87
CSA NM = 135
Foreign Help = 7
Prisoners of War CSA 6400
USA Combat losses = 183798
CSA Combat losses = 159678
USA VP = 2353
CSA VP = 2367
USA VP per turn = 35
CSA VP per turn = 55

Messages:
Leavenworth KS Depot finished

Battle of Harpers Ferry – Union Defeat
USA Blenker 3967 men 1272 horse 24 cannon vs CSA Stuart 26559 men 14494 horse 120 cannon
USA loss 615 men vs CSA loss 430 men 123 horse

USA captured Ironton OH
CSA captured Clarksburg KY
USA captured Winchester VA
4 Frigates and 4 Scouts to Philadelphia and Fort Pickens (1 each for each Blockade fleet – improve detection?)
Fort Clermont at Cincinnati bombarded CSS Baton Rouge ironclad landing 21 hits return 0 hits (may have sunk)

Battle of Big Sandy River – Union Victory
USA Porter fleet 2336 men 157 cannon vs CSA Hindman 8871 men 1385 horse 43 cannon
USA loss 0 men vs CSA loss 98 men 12 cannon (with 2 gunboat elements destroyed)

Battle of Albemarle VA – Union Victory
USA Hooker Corps and Meade Corps 69950 men 14042 horse 492 cannon vs CSA Lee Army and Jackson Corps 61274 men 9887 horse 216 cannon
USA loss 7795 men 707 horse vs CSA loss 12084 men 1629 horse
USA +3 NM
Note that CSA Lee attacked Albemarle.

Battle of Morgan KY – Union Defeat
USA Keyes Corps and Thomas Corps 33286 men 14237 horse 278 cannon vs CSA Polk Corps 35091 men 4901 horse 166 cannon
USA loss 768 men 184 horse vs CSA loss 461 men 215 horse

Battle of Winchester VA - Union Defeat
USA Berry 6452 men vs CSA Stuart 25959 men 14284 horse 120 cannon
USA loss 1230 men vs CSA loss 799 men 707 horse
USA -1 NM

US Navy inflicted total 5 hits being hit total 1

Intel:
CSS AL and CSS FL at Shipping
5 Brig at Atlantic Blockade
9+ Brig at Gulf Blockade
Hoke at Norfolk
Magruder PWR 646 at Williamsburg
Forney Corps PWR 634 at Hanover
Johnson Corps and Longstreet Corps at Louisa
Lee Army and Corps at Charlottesville
CSA Hindman PWR 577 at Prestonburg KY
Polk Corps PWR 1879 at Morgan KY
Withers PWR 44 at Clarksburg KY
Holmes Corps PWR 498 at Bracken KY
Johnston Army and Corps at Boone KY
Stevenson at Louisville KY
Johnston Army at Paducah KY
CSA at Columbus KY
Hardee at Fayetteville AR

Dispositions:
McDowell Corps to Fredericksburg
Porter fleet to Sandy Confluent
Thomas to Clarksburg KY from Morgan KY
Keyes to Clarksburg KY from Rowan KY
Schenk to attack Clarksburg from Ironton
Buell at Ironton
Sumner Corps (1 division) to Bowling Green

Replacements: 4 Infantry 2 Cavalry

Economics: 20 locomotives and 20 river transports

Getting Thomas and Keyes out of Kentucky is difficult – Porter fleet should help.

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Mon May 23, 2011 7:18 pm

I just conceded to Sedgwick after losing both Thomas and Keyes Corps. Their loss along with the mistakes I've made render the game untenable and unrecoverable. Sedgwick is close to winning on NM, can take any city west of the Appalachians, and with his available forces can probably defeat the Army of the Potomac and take Washington.

Sedgwick has been a worthy opponent - I enjoyed the game and learned a few things (mostly by observing what beat me).

I'll post the remainder of the turns soon along with my lessons learned. I encourage Sedgwick to critique my gameplay if he so chooses, so that I can learn from my mistakes.

Quick look: Sedgwick used his Corps effectively choosing mutally supporting ground - very few Union attacks were successful.

Congratulations to Sedgwick, he is a gentleman.

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Mon May 23, 2011 9:54 pm

Yellowhammer wrote:Congratulations to Sedgwick, he is a gentleman.


As are you, Yellowhammer.

Thanks for the AAR.

Regards.
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Mon May 23, 2011 10:46 pm

very enjoyable AAR ...it seemed the union attacks in Virginia were successful, but that slaughter in KY tipped the scales big time.
very informative , and answered a number of curly questions .

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Mon May 23, 2011 11:06 pm

gchristie - thank you.

JKM - the game stats will show just how bad the KY battle hurt.

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Mon May 23, 2011 11:07 pm

TURN 59 – Early September 1863

USA NM = 85
CSA NM = 131
Foreign Help = 17
Prisoners of War CSA 6300
USA Combat losses = 185569
CSA Combat losses = 160352
USA VP = 2390
CSA VP = 2433
USA VP per turn = 36
CSA VP per turn = 55

Messages:
CSS FL hit 3 times return Farragut hit 1 time

Battle of Mississippi Basin – Union Victory
USA fleet 3724 men 315 cannon vs CSA fleet 304 men 38 cannon
USA loss 0 men vs CSA loss 106 men 13 cannon (with 1 Brig destroyed)

CSA captured Rolla MO

Battle of Scioto OH – Union Victory
USA Dodge 7828 men 669 horse 23 cannon vs CSA 300 men 300 horse
USA loss 0 men vs CSA loss 300 men 300 horse (with Indian element destroyed)
Dodge congratulated for victory

USA captured Rome IN
USA captured Harpers Ferry WV
CSA Norfolk bombarded Chesapeake Scout Squadron landing 10 hits (sunk)
USA captured New Albany IN

Battle of Alexandria – Union Defeat
USA Devens 1771 men 600 horse vs CSA Stuart 25569 men 13864 horse 120 cannon
USA loss 1771 men 600 horse (including 700 POW with 2 Infantry 1 cavalry element destroyed) vs CSA loss 184 men 64 horse
USA -2 NM
Devens blamed for loss

Intel:
CSS AL and CSS FL at Shipping
5 Brig at Atlantic Blockade
Hoke at Norfolk
Magruder PWR 654 at Williamsburg
Forney Corps PWR 671 at Hanover
Johnson Corps PWR 1049 and Longstreet Corps PWR 1621 at Louisa
Lee Army and Corps at Charlottesville
Stuart PWR 1235 at Alexandria
Hindman at Prestonburg KY
Polk Corps PWR 2290 at Clarksburg KY
Holmes Corps PWR 531 at Bracken KY
Johnston Army and Corps at Boone KY
Bragg at Louisville KY (building depot)
McLaws PWR 184 at Bowling Green KY
Johnston Army at Paducah KY
CSA at Columbus KY
Price PWR 219 at Springfield MO
Hardee at Fayetteville AR

Dispositions:
Butler to attack Magruder at Williamsburg
McClellan Army and Kearny Corps to attack Hanover
Berry to attack Alexandria
Thomas to attack Lexington
Sumner to attack Bowling Green
Schenk to Cincinnati
Buell to Washington

Replacements: 1 Elite Infantry 4 Infantry 1 cavalry

Keyes and Thomas attempt to retreat through Bowling Green.

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Mon May 23, 2011 11:21 pm

Thank you Yellowhammer, I'm flattered. You too are a gentleman and a scholar.

Before I offer some constructive criticism, I'd like to stress that I think you did a pretty good job under the circumstances. Once I established a strong foothold in Kentucky and fortified the Ohio confluent, it would've been very difficult to gain any headway in the west, especially after losing Foote's fleet to bombardment. Also, I understand some people consider the strategy of using divisional raiders to be rather gamey - it's certainly ahistorical, though I tried to avoid anything too far fetched, but in any case, for as long as I dominated the rivers, I imagine it must've been difficult to deal with this effectively, but you did a good job here as well. Finally, I quickly racked up an insanely ahistorical level of RR capacity, to the point that I could issue "move by rail" orders to entire armies to practically guarantee MTSG and still have full RR supply and then some. I think in my next game I may try implementing a house rule to limit CSA infrastructure to more plausible levels, because in this game, whenever I had excess resources I just couldn't resist the temptation to shovel it into the transport pools.

Not only is there a problem in Kentucky, I'm outnumbered in Virginia. How in the world does that happen?

I suspect this has to do with my solid NM lead and consistent use of the full mobilization and $2,000 bounty volunteer options. However, I'm pretty sure you consistently outnumbered me in Virginia (at least until Grant went west, and perhaps even then). Also, apart from a division each in Mobile and New Orleans, I largely neglected my coastal defenses in favour of Kentucky and Virginia.

As you mentioned in our email correspondence, your biggest mistake was indeed attacking in insufficient numbers trying to meet some sort of timetable. My advice? Pay no heed to the northern papers, they don't know what they're talking about. Take your time and try not to attack with anything less than 3:1 odds, unless you absolutely have to or you have reason to believe a force is weak or low on supply, and remember to check adjacent regions and take into account MTSG chance. By the way, regarding MTSG, I found these threads extremely enlightening: http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=17389 http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=9478

I think you also tried to advance from too many directions at once, and maybe followed the example of history a bit too closely, e.g. in your peninsula campaign. You would've been better served by focusing either on the peninsula or the overland route, rather than both simultaneously. Also, as you said in your email, your coastal raids were largely ineffectual. Once I realized they weren't there to stay, I completely stripped my coastal defenses other than Wilmington, Norfolk, Mobile and New Orleans. If you had launched a seaborne invasion anywhere else, you likely would've encountered no resistance at all for the first two turns. Knowing you were able to bring overwhelming force to bear anywhere on the coast at will, I willingly sacrificed my ability to respond rapidly in exchange for concentrating overwhelming force where it really counted, namely Kentucky.

More abstractly, I think the final result had a lot to do with our differing playstyles. You seem to take a very scientific approach, focusing on regions with high production and VP values, whereas I approach it more as an art form, and focus more on armies and leaders. Your objectives were mostly cities; my objectives were dead Yankees. Your fixation on Louisville, for example, allowed me to predict and manipulate your moves in Kentucky, where my strategy from day one was the destruction of the Army of the Ohio - everything else was secondary. I never once entertained the idea of taking Washington. To be fair, you do seem to have recognized in the east that the Confederacy is its army, not its capital (mentioning a plan to crush the Army of the Potomac), but I almost certainly would never have allowed this to happen. I had resolved early on to move my capital and abandon Richmond if I thought it at all possible you might take it in one or two turns. It would've been costly, to be sure, and likely would've spelled my ultimate defeat, but again, my goal was to isolate and destroy an overextended army, and to that end I was willing to sacrifice even Richmond.

Anyway, thanks again for a great game! I encourage you to critique my gameplay too, if you so choose.

EDIT: Going over my post, I realized I sound a bit like a pompous ass :p apy: - just wanted to stress that I'm no expert, just wanted to give a thorough account of my impressions.
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Tue May 24, 2011 8:48 am

John, what is gamey about this?

"Also, I understand some people consider the strategy of using divisional raiders to be rather gamey"

What do you mean by divisional raiders?

Charles

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Tue May 24, 2011 12:36 pm

You both run a classy operation. Congrats to you all! Or as we say down South "all you all". What am I supposed to read now when I log on? This thread has been my "go to" for a while!

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Tue May 24, 2011 12:41 pm

charlesonmission - by divisional raiders, I mean large forces consisting of more than just cavalry used for deep raids (I used marines and light infantry in small divisions along with bushwhackers, cav and horse arty for my WV raids). Also, apparently some people consider the strategy of "raid spam" to be gamey as well - I didn't realize this until after the fact, and I hope this accusation can't be leveled at me, as I tried not to go overboard. Couldn't find the original thread I read on this topic, but here's a similar one: http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=19784

Longshanks - thanks!
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