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I am nearing the end of my first post 1.10 patch campaign.

I've pushed the yanks all off the map. They only have a slim section of Upper NY state and Ft Laramie (which btw is cramped packed with fed units) and New England still under yank domination.

It is January 1865 and with all the terriitory my armies have conquered (including all the west and west coast except for Ft Laramie),with the union armies decimated, wth tons and tons of money ,supplies and conscripts,with a tremendous naval armada..... my national moral is still at a measley 85.

I just don't see what more I can do at this point during the final year that could possibly raise my national moral to the victory condition. The union moral isn't in the tank either considering all their losses. t is just a shade lower than mine.

I know I complained in another post some time ago about the union throwing in the towel way too early... I fear now that old saying about being careful what you wish for might really be valid.

Southerner wrote: -snip- and New England still under yank domination.

And it will be until you yank it from our Granite grip!

Southerner wrote: -snip- my national moral is still at a measley 85.

This sounds like you abused some options, including your promotions and maybe had some REAL rough losses on your way to control of Federal territory.

Guess you'll just have to make note of what you did, and try it from the top.

just finished my first campaign. Ran the Rebs off of the map. LOL Tag

soloswolf wrote:And it will be until you yank it from our Granite grip!

Well that shouldn't require more than a minor tug or two over the remaining few months. The problem is that such a minor gain/loss couldn't possibly provide the boost/fall of morale needed to win decisively at this point...or so it seems.

This sounds like you abused some options, including your promotions and maybe had some REAL rough losses on your way to control of Federal territory.

I don't think that is the answer. I've had no severe losses. My armies are brimming over. The biggest headache is creating enough armies to avoid out of command penalities. Replacement pools are all at 10% of totals deployed or better. Haven't had a single complaint concerning promotions. There is hardly a speck of blue territiory from coast to coast...the overwhelming number of territories being occupied by well supplied milita units. Even the majority of the conquered doodler states have a loyalty above 30 and I have granted them full civil liberties. It just isn't making sense that my folk's moral isn't soaring while the yanks are in the dumpster,moral wise.

Guess you'll just have to make note of what you did, and try it from the top.

....that is exactly the problem. I can't see that I have "done anything wrong". In fact this has been one of my better campaigns in everything but results. (and I can't believe I'm saying something like that..but never-the-less, it is true)

Something has definitely changed with the patch. My plan is to go forward these last few turns and see what develops during the final year. The way it looks there ain't gonna be no y.d.s lefts to surrender.


I'm thinking maybe the problem is "Philadelphia" which of course is a major objective needed to win. I conquered it months and months ago. I have a tremendous garrison there. The are no union forces nearer than up state NY but in the objective list, the objective flag, has not turned from a union flag to a Confederate one. It still remains the orange banner with crossed swords which I have understood to mean a contested objective.

Southerner wrote:
I'm thinking maybe the problem is "Philadelphia" which of course is a major objective needed to win. I conquered it months and months ago. I have a tremendous garrison there. The are no union forces nearer than up state NY but in the objective list, the objective flag, has not turned from a union flag to a Confederate one. It still remains the orange banner with crossed swords which I have understood to mean a contested objective.

You need to garrison objective cities with at least one regular unit. Using militia only will result in the orange crossed swords banner which indicates that you do not control the objective (and neither does the Union).

Le Ricain wrote:You need to garrison objective cities with at least one regular unit. Using militia only will result in the orange crossed swords banner which indicates that you do not control the objective (and neither does the Union).

Ach...could it be that simple? The pop up box does still insist that the city is uncontrolled.


Thanks ,I'll try that but I'm fairly sure R.E.Lee and his entire army was there for several turns,after capitulation to recover losses, and he has no militia, only regular units. I have used militia to garrison other objective cities and didn't encounter this "rule" before. Could be though that the militia didn't arrive until after the regular shock trroops had done their thing. At this point i'll try anything.

Improve morale by smashing the Feds Armies in battle. I noticed in my latest game that though I lost Bowling Green and Nasville in 2 turns that Morale was maintained by smashing yank armies in East - in facr battle victories more than compensated for loss of objective locations, which is perhaps as it should be - smash your enemy in battle?

Southerner wrote:Ach...could it be that simple? The pop up box does still insist that the city is uncontrolled.


Thanks ,I'll try that but I'm fairly sure R.E.Lee and his entire army was there for several turns,after capitulation to recover losses, and he has no militia, only regular units. I have used militia to garrison other objective cities and didn't encounter this "rule" before. Could be though that the militia didn't arrive until after the regular shock trroops had done their thing. At this point i'll try anything.

The garrison of objective cities needs to be permanently with a regular unit. As soon as you replace it with a militia, you lose control. If you are garrisoning other objective cities with milita, I suggest that you take a look at the units. I am willing to bet that elements within the militia unit have been upgraded to regular infantry.

Le Ricain wrote:The garrison of objective cities needs to be permanently with a regular unit. As soon as you replace it with a militia, you lose control. If you are garrisoning other objective cities with milita, I suggest that you take a look at the units. I am willing to bet that elements within the militia unit have been upgraded to regular infantry.

This is only needed on non loyal cities, i think.
So, The CSA don't nee regular inf (or even militia) to control loyal (southern) cities.
I'm not sure what is the minimum loyalty necessary for this... 50% maybe??
Cheers

Brochgale wrote:Improve morale by smashing the Feds Armies in battle. I noticed in my latest game that though I lost Bowling Green and Nasville in 2 turns that Morale was maintained by smashing yank armies in East - in facr battle victories more than compensated for loss of objective locations, which is perhaps as it should be - smash your enemy in battle?

..now theres a fine idear...but the fly in the buttermilk is...there ain't no doodler armies left to smash.

...well as they say...alls well as ends well.


Late January 1866. . Not a single federal land unit left anywhere outside of the New England territory box. Still their moral is stuck at 66.

Armies under Lee, Beaureguard, Johnson, converge,after a deadly winter march, then annialate the remaining federal forces ,holed up in Boston, at the Battle of Boston.

The North capitulates....finally

'bout dang time! Man now that one was a cliff hanger, a real nail biter.


This game alone was worth the money I paid for AGEOD!!!

Perhaps it could be good to add more ways to win the game, i.e. that even if you haven't enough NM to win, you can achieve victory by controlling e.g. 95% of the strategic cities and all the objective cities?

(or something like that)

Rafiki wrote:Perhaps it could be good to add more ways to win the game, i.e. that even if you haven't enough NM to win, you can achieve victory by controlling e.g. 95% of the strategic cities and all the objective cities?

(or something like that)

Problem was I had 99.9% controlled and still they hung on. Untill I took Boston,the last uncontrolled city,destroyed the very last remaining fed land unit and made it 100% controlled the enemy stubbornly refused to quit. I was thinking that after all those hours and efforts I was going to end up with a stalemate outcome.

But I ain't complaining. My complaint was that the end came too early and too easily and this certainly seems to have been resolved in the last patch.

That would be a good thing indeed. If one modder can provide with the events, I think they can go official rather soon.