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Powerful Union Divisions

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:42 am
by Irish Brigade
What is the best and most efficent way to get 400+ strength/cohesion union divisions?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:06 am
by Jabberwock
A great leader (Grant, Sherman, Hancock, etc.), four big rifled guns, a big elite unit, fill in the rest with the best of your line brigades that have no artillery, some rest, and a training officer in the same stack. Put it all together, and 600+ should be no problem.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:07 am
by W.Barksdale
For me a standard division consists of the following:

1 leader
1 Sharpshooter
1 Cavalry
4 Artillery
11 Infantry

There are situations when some elements should be adjusted or removed completely with others added IMO.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:29 am
by Irish Brigade
Thanks Barks..LOL NOW you tell me..

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:54 pm
by Le Ricain
W.Barksdale wrote:For me a standard division consists of the following:

1 leader
1 Sharpshooter
1 Cavalry
4 Artillery
11 Infantry

There are situations when some elements should be adjusted or removed completely with others added IMO.


As Jabber has said above, if you make sure that one of the brigades in the above recipe is an elite, you will have the perfect division.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:42 pm
by Coregonas
If independent, add 1 marine-type unit to the troop and crossing rivers would be a joke. (1/Stack can do the job)

Remember also to add a Supply Wagon to the stack!

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:42 pm
by CountBrass
Le Ricain wrote:As Jabber has said above, if you make sure that one of the brigades in the above recipe is an elite, you will have the perfect division.


How do I know a unit is elite? How do I get elite units?

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:58 pm
by Le Ricain
CountBrass wrote:How do I know a unit is elite? How do I get elite units?


You receive elite units by event. The elite units have a yellow flag with black crosses. An early example for the union is the California Brigade.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:05 am
by pepe4158
say Le...why not more elite southern divisions as I was asking Jab one time...I would contend that many southern brigades were easily the equivalent of the iron-Brig (the most famous northern brigade)....Rhode's, Early's, Armistead's to mention some.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:57 am
by W.Barksdale
pepe4158 wrote:say Le...why not more elite souther divisions as I was asking Jab one time...I would contednd that many southern brigades were easily the equivalent of the iron-Brig (the most famous northern brigade)....Rhode's, Early's, Armistead's to mention some.


Yeah, I agree, there are alot of crack units they missed.

Southern Brigades

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:46 am
by Irish Brigade
Have not seen the Lousiana Tigers..are they around?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:06 am
by W.Barksdale
Irish Brigade wrote:Have not seen the Lousiana Tigers..are they around?


Oh yeah they are in there.
I was thinking more of Law's Alabama Brigade. 4th, 15th, 44th, 47th, and 48th Alabama regiments. Or the Mississippi Brigade, 13th, 17th, 18th, and 21st Mississiippi regiments. These were crack outfits and if they aren't counted as 'elite' I don't know what should be.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:54 am
by GShock
It would be so nice if we could handle the elements and decide what elements go into each unit. :)

swap an element from one unit to send to another unit, for example would do the trick to form divs with the elements we want.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:23 am
by Offworlder
Irish Brigade wrote:Have not seen the Lousiana Tigers..are they around?


I think the Louisiana Tigers are included. Another Southern elite unit is the Orphan's Brigade. I'm not sure if the Stonewall brigade is rated as elite. I don't know of any others. BTW the Marines are considered elite as well as far as I know.

The Union gets a lot more elite units. On the other hand the South gets its super brigades (the Virginians and Tenessee) which if recruited in the first year or so of the war can get enough experience to become unbeatable. Especially with the new patches a few experienced Southern divisions under competent leadership easily rout the large, ineptly led Union forces with relative ease.