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In the 1.04 patch one of the changes was "Each unit and leader can now gain some experience, depending on the duration of the battle. Hitting an enemy regiment will also give some experience. Generals can also gain some senority just by being present in several battles."

I am playing ver 1.07f, standard Apr 61 scenario, I am through June 62. I have not seen Generals gain senority by just being at a battle. The only time I see them gain senority is if they receive congratulations.

In very large battles few units gain experience (the last one I had was Union 130,000 troops vs 95000 Confederate, Union lost 20000 troops, Confederates lost 15000, Confederates won the battle but Union did not retreat). Very few units gained experience on either side and only one General advanced one step in senority.

I'm just not sure that the change in 1.04 is occuring in 1.07f

Thanks

That has been talked about in the Mod forum recently I believe. It does seem that gaining experience is hard to gain. However in 1.06 (not sure of 1.07f since I just upgraded to it) I received a lot of congratulations for my generals in battles.

While it didn't seem to get acknowledged anywhere I did notice in late 62 when I started looking for it that my troops under Hooker, Lyon and others that had been in numberous battles had a couple-few notches on the experience bar. That is in 1.06 as well though, not sure if it changed up through 1.07f but I don't think it would have. At least not intentionally since it has never been overdone in previous releases.

Thanks Guru, I do like the concept of the change in 1.04, however I don't really see it happening.

I would think a large number of the units involved in the fighting would gain some experience.

I have noticed that 1-4 to 1-3 of my units are gaining experience per battle in 1.07f. Some are obviously doing more of the fighting since they are losing more men and gaining more experience. Through 3 turns some of my units have at least 3 notches of experience. Granted, this is from a group that was attacked 2 turns in a row and the assaults lasted multiple days and I won each time.

That's good to hear. It could just be me. My big battle lasted a couple of days and the Confederates won, however only three units gained experience out of a very large number of troops.

Guru80 wrote:I have noticed that 1-4 to 1-3 of my units are gaining experience per battle in 1.07f. Some are obviously doing more of the fighting since they are losing more men and gaining more experience. Through 3 turns some of my units have at least 3 notches of experience. Granted, this is from a group that was attacked 2 turns in a row and the assaults lasted multiple days and I won each time.

That is quite a bit different from my experience. Multiple large battles may produce 1 or 2 or 3 units with a single star of battle experience star out of the hundred plus elements in two or three corps.

The system does work. It will produce a battle star once in a blue moon. Although IMO, the percentage of regiments gaining battle experience vs the numbers of regiments actually in battle is very, very low.

I have tried modding the ProgRate to increase battle experience gain but unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have an impact.

Congratulations for commanders seems to work well. Although I, like Joe, am not seeing much in regards to regiments gaining battle experience.

(Although I am still using 1.07d. Perhaps people are having a difference experience with 1.07f)

Jagger wrote:That is quite a bit different from my experience. Multiple large battles may produce 1 or 2 or 3 units with a single star of battle experience star out of the hundred plus elements in two or three corps.

The system does work. It will produce a battle star once in a blue moon. Although IMO, the percentage of regiments gaining battle experience vs the numbers of regiments actually in battle is very, very low.

I have tried modding the ProgRate to increase battle experience gain but unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have an impact.

Congratulations for commanders seems to work well. Although I, like Joe, am not seeing much in regards to regiments gaining battle experience.

(Although I am still using 1.07d. Perhaps people are having a difference experience with 1.07f)

Hmmm...I am using 1.07f with McNaughton's Brigade Mod. I will get some screen shots or something to show you my results. One division in one stack didn't suffer a single loss and didn't gain a single experience point (which makes me believe they didn't take part in the one battle) but quite a few in other divisions have. Some gained 3 stars worth of experience in a couple multi-day battles.

Could it be a Corps issue some how? None of mine were Corps yet when the battles took place, just multiple divisions in stacks together. A much higher percentage of my elements gained experience than you are reporting and that makes me wonder if it might be something that doesn't register correctly in Corps. I will keep an eye out after my coming battles to see the results with Corps and without Corps. Doesn't seem like there would be a difference but we are obviously experiencing very different results with the only real difference being the Corps.

4 out of 17 elements in one stack gained experience and 4 out of 15 in the other division gained experience. Maybe I was just lucky? Don't know. Also, I was wrong. I do have 2 elements that have 3 stars of experience but not in those stacks. Those 8 elements each have 1 star of experience.

Guru80 wrote:Could it be a Corps issue some how? None of mine were Corps yet when the battles took place, just multiple divisions in stacks together. A much higher percentage of my elements gained experience than you are reporting and that makes me wonder if it might be something that doesn't register correctly in Corps. I will keep an eye out after my coming battles to see the results with Corps and without Corps. Doesn't seem like there would be a difference but we are obviously experiencing very different results with the only real difference being the Corps.

That is an interesting observation. I think I will also watch to see if being in a corps or not makes a difference.

I checked in my Kilcavalry PBEM for experience gains. Two or three corps had no one with battle experiences but two divisions not in a corps did have battle experience. It was weird considering all the large battles occurring.

Ok....I am almost willing to be my life it is a Corps issue. Had 2 battles with Corps, not a single element gained experience.

Had 2 more battles with the above divisions (Under Rosecran in Grafton) and now 11 of the 17 elements in one division have experience and 7 of the 15 in the other.

I installed Fraps and took screen shots which I will post tomorrow. Going to bed!

Guru80 wrote:Ok....I am almost willing to be my life it is a Corps issue. Had 2 battles with Corps, not a single element gained experience.

Had 2 more battles with the above divisions (Under Rosecran in Grafton) and now 11 of the 17 elements in one division have experience and 7 of the 15 in the other.

I installed Fraps and took screen shots which I will post tomorrow. Going to bed!

I think the problem may lie with battle experience disappearing when new recruits are integrated into the regiment.

Not certain but the game results are definitely not reflective of what I would expect.

It doesn't take too many battles before troops should be considered battle hardened.