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Is there an advantage to incorporating a leader into a Brigade, vs. having that leader command the brigade from the outside? If I am saying that right?

Is there an advantage to putting leaders in a corps or other stack where they are not the commander, if they have no direct command? I understand they would confer a special ability to the stack (like artillery), but is there any other advantage to loading a stack with unattached leaders?

KillCalvalry wrote:Is there an advantage to incorporating a leader into a Brigade, vs. having that leader command the brigade from the outside? If I am saying that right?

Is there an advantage to putting leaders in a corps or other stack where they are not the commander, if they have no direct command? I understand they would confer a special ability to the stack (like artillery), but is there any other advantage to loading a stack with unattached leaders?

I don't think it is better one way or the other. For some, it is best to leave them unattached, as their special abilities add to units in the entire stack (while attached, I believe that these abilities will only affect the unit they are attached too), while some abilities will only affect a unit directly attached (so it is better to attach a commander than to leave them unattached). However, for the basic general, with no statististics, it really shouldn't matter either way (from what I understand). You get the CP bonus attached or not, and any other bonus to the stack is equalled by the bonus attached to the unit. Test out attaching leaders in a large stack to a brigade, and notice if the 'stack power' changes. I believe it will remain the same, if not very close to the orignial rating.

So, in my opinion, for most it won't really matter what you do. Some situations will result in a better choice to leave them unattached, others will be better to attach.

I was under the impression that subordinate generals in a stack only get seniority if they are attached to a combat unit. AFAIK the stack commander will get seniority either way.

I interpreted the abilities thing a different way. If it says the ability is shared with all units in the stack then units in divisions should share their abilities with the whole stack.

Logic would dictate though there has to be a benefit. Here is my thinking:

In a corps, if the Division units benefit from both the Division Commander AND the Corps Commander, it would stand to reason that the BDE with an integrated Commander would benefit the same way; it would get BOTH modifiers.

Units that are LOOSE in a Corps, however, only benefit from the Corps Commander, right? So that Brigade, if it DOESN'T have an integrated general, and that general is just included in the Corps "Loose", can't receive benefit from that leader. In fact, I can't see how a LOOSE leader could give a combat modifier other than a special ability for the stack. And maybe command points?

If the Brigade is an independent command, it probably doesn't matter if it's integrated with a General or not, because the Sr. General confers his ability anyway. But what if you have that integrated Brigade, AND a more Sr. commander of that Stack? Then what?

First of all, make sure to think in more general terms than Division/Corps, think Unit/Stack

The benefit from the stack commander is larger than from a unit commander (5% per rating vs. 3% per rating). If a given general is both, only the stack benefit counts.

For a general to count for the unit, there needs to be a different guy commanding the stack AND the general must be integrated with the unit.

If an army stack contains an "aide-de-camp", i.e. a non-commanding general with a strategic rating of at least 4, the army stack and the subordinate stack gets +1 CP. Other "loose" generals also benfit CP, but there's a limit to how much CP a stack can (with some variations), but I'm not fully familiar with the exact numbers for that.

Some abilities, such as "artillery officer" (not sure about the name) and "pontoneer" are group abilities, which benefit the entire stack. Other, such as "sharpshooter" and "high morale", are unit abilities, which benefit just the unit that the leader/element is part of. I hope to add an overview of the abilities to the wiki, but haven't gotten that far yet.

I have noticed faster movement rates with attached leaders than when unattached. speed = cohesion at the destination.