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Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:45 pm

Ok,

1) Do friendly leaders have to be stacked together to fight together? Say I have an area with two friendly leaders in it. Each with units or maybe combined into a division. An enemy leader/force enters the area. Do the two leaders combine to fight the enemy or does the enemy leader fight each separately in 2 battles?

2) Do I have to stack my divisions with a Corp commander for them to be part of that leaders Corp? I'd say yes.

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Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:45 pm

1. If you have multiple stacks in a region, there is no guarantee that they will fight together. You need them in the same stack to ensure they fight/move together.

2. Yes, only units that are in the same stack as the Corps count towards the corps. So loose divisions are on their own.
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Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:59 pm

Independent corps may, of course, support each other if they are in an adjacent region. Same is true of an army command. You can place four corps in four adjacent regions and they will (may) mutually support each other. The odds go up if they're part of an army with a really good strategic rating on the leader.

See the "A Series of Unfortunate General Swaps" thread for details.

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:02 pm

Independent corps may, of course, support each other if they are in an adjacent region.

What is meant here? A Corps, in an Army command structure, will support other Corps in the same Army (in adjacent regions).

A stack under a ** is, strictly speaking, not a Corps, if not in an Army's command structure. When you mouseover, you see 'Smith's Command' - if part of an Army's command structure, it reads 'Smith's Corps'.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:04 am

So Corps with in the same area, but not containing the Army HQ, will fight together?

I don't need to stack everyone with the Army HQ, right?

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:02 am

An army stack and corps stacks belonging to that army will try to support each other, even if they are in neighboring regions. I.e. they don't need to be stacked together.

For the details, check http://www.ageod.net/aacwwiki/Marching_to_the_sound_of_the_guns :)
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:29 pm

Rafiki wrote:An army stack and corps stacks belonging to that army will try to support each other, even if they are in neighboring regions. I.e. they don't need to be stacked together.

For the details, check http://www.ageod.net/aacwwiki/Marching_to_the_sound_of_the_guns :)


Not really answering my question. Say I have 2 Corps stacks in Harper's Ferry, but the army HQ is in Manasas. If Harper's Ferry is attacked will those 2 Corps fight together?

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:29 pm

If both Corps belong to the same Army, the more likely is that as two Corps stacks are in the same region, a Corp will go to help the other one by MTSG.
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Ethan wrote:If both Corps belong to the same Army, the more likely is that as two Corps stacks are in the same region, a Corp will go to help the other one by MTSG.


The MTSG is for adjacent areas only, no modifier if they occupy the same area per the Wiki. But with two separate "Corp" stacks in an area will they cooperate? Or will they be attacked in detail?

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:08 pm

Capt Cliff wrote:Not really answering my question. Say I have 2 Corps stacks in Harper's Ferry, but the army HQ is in Manasas. If Harper's Ferry is attacked will those 2 Corps fight together?


Exactly as asked - Yes. In the same Region? The probablity is very, very close to 100% - possibly not if there are Cohesion issues, current Orders/ROE stance, but, as phrased, Yes.

And they support one another in adjacent Regions,again with calculations fpr ROE stance, orders, etc. My experience is very, very often.

It's a fundamental strategy in AACW and no other game has it, AFAIK. Multiple Corps in the same Army supporting one another can be a very tough nut to crack.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:08 pm

Yeh, I shouldn't have used the word "independent" in my post. What I should have said was "individual" instead. They have to be in the same army, as others have noted.

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:10 pm

That's OK, big guy, I've used the same phrasing on occasion - however, as noted, strictly speaking, Corps are part of Armies.
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Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:29 am

Capt Cliff wrote:The MTSG is for adjacent areas only


MTSG also can work if two corps are in the same region. I say this because I have experienced it. :)
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Ethan wrote:MTSG also can work if two corps are in the same region. I say this because I have experienced it. :)


Yes I think I have too; however the contiguity of some areas is not immediately apparent. I am thinking of the Fredericksburg and west areas.

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