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Replacement for upgraded units?

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:44 pm
by BigDuke66
What replacement do I get for an upgraded element if the brigade it is in still lists something like (2) Militia.
I just see some Militia brigades that got one of their militia regiments replaced with a normal infantry regiment and I wonder what happens if that is lost, will it be replaced with what was lost or again with a militia regiment?

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:24 pm
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:20 pm
by enf91
Those militia can only be "replaced" by adding two militia regiments together. The database is scripted so that such elements are never automatically added.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:47 pm
by Gray_Lensman
enf91 wrote:Those militia can only be "replaced" by adding two militia regiments together. The database is scripted so that such elements are never automatically added.


You are misunderstanding how the initial unit element makeup definition(s) and the replacement element definition(s) interact with each other.

If a 2-element Militia unit has been formed by combining 2 individual Militia units, and BOTH of those elements get upgraded to normal infantry via event, ONCE one of those normal infantry units gets eliminated in a combat it would be replaced by a new Militia replacement element since the 2 element Militia unit is defined for replacement purposes to be made up of 2 elements of FamilyType = $famMilitia

The reason why the unit starts out with a single element is the initial definition of the unit contains only 1 element of $famMilitia allowing for the merger of the second element which does not automatically occur as you are correctly pointing out.

Another way of stating it is: Once the 2nd element is added AND neither of those elements are of the $famMilitia (FamilyType), due to upgrades, then the elimination of either upgraded element would call for the replacement of the missing element which would then be a Militia element.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:14 am
by BigDuke66
Well in my case I meant units like the "2nd PA Res. Bde.", one of the militia regiments upgraded from "Volunteers (Militia)" to "Infantry (conscript) (Line Infantry)".

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:58 am
by enf91
Oh. I don't know if those are ever replaced. I think you can fill them out only by attaching another militia regiment. Regular infantry won't fit, and they won't auto-refill. I think it was set that way to avoid possible problems of those brigades swelling to ridiculous sizes by having the game engine continually reattack militia elements to replace those that upgraded.

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:09 am
by Gray_Lensman
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