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Music Oneupmanship

Mon May 12, 2008 11:46 pm

Gents:

Reading the thread Custom Music in AACW - A How-to Guide prompts me to propose a friendly game of music oneupmanship. The question is simply this: Who amongst us has the most music in AACW's sound folder?

I should propose three rules:

1. Can only be Civil War-ish music to count. This may be hard to define, but obviously music written after 1865 doesn't count.

2. Same songs by different artists DO count.

3. Illegally pirated songs don't count.

I'll start by revealing a modest 49 songs in my AACW collection.

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Tue May 13, 2008 1:22 am

Here are mine:
I've got 123 songs. Most are from 3 civil war albums and a Tennessee Ford collection. I got about 30 off the internet, mostly off of JSTOR. Its a bit over the top but I like some immersion.

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Tue May 13, 2008 6:34 am

Sorry I'm a little off topic. Ya'll have a favourite song? I find myself singing Arkansas Traveller at work all the time. :fleb:
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Sun May 18, 2008 12:20 am

Turbo puts me to shame. My only three sources: music that came with AACW, Ken Burns's Civil War soundtrack, and an old LP by "The Union Confederacy" (ripped the music from it using Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition).

Fav song: the poignant "All Quiet Along the Potomac Tonight."

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Sun May 18, 2008 8:03 am

Turbo, are some of your list copyright free? ;)
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Sun May 18, 2008 10:17 am

Here there are some copyright free american civil war songs, among others, but of course sound "old" :niark:

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/music/type_noncopyright.cfm

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Sun May 18, 2008 11:56 am

ok thanks. We want the best only :)

what is 'oneupmanship'?
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Sun May 18, 2008 12:36 pm

Wikipedia: [font="Courier New"]One-upmanship is the systematic and conscious practice of making one's associates feel inferior and thereby gaining the status of being "one-up" on them.[/font]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-upmanship :)

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oh, I see. :)
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Sun May 18, 2008 3:23 pm

Pocus wrote:Turbo, are some of your list copyright free? ;)


The album cds I had to buy. I also pulled some MP3 off of a couple of Civil war games, like Shiloh.

My favorite songs are 'the vacant chair', 'goober peas', and the 'wagon'.

Actually there is plenty of free music online that you can download. That will keep you satisfied for a while but you do have to do a far amount of 'weeding' to get a nice selection. Even some of the midi's aren't too bad. Here are just a few sites:

http://www.civilwarmusic.net/songs.php
http://www.pdmusic.org/civilwar2.html
http://pabucktail.com/songs.htm
http://victoryatseaonline.com/war/civilwar-music.html
http://www.civilwarband.com/music.shtml
http://www.murfreesboropost.com/news.php?viewStory=1498

I like immersion into games so the music for me adds a nice flavor.

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Sun May 18, 2008 10:21 pm

I've wondered about how copyright works on nineteenth-century music. The lyrics themselves have long since passed into public domain, of course. But I assume that a particular recording of such a song may be under copyright by the performing artist. Is that right?

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Chaplain Lovejoy wrote:I've wondered about how copyright works on nineteenth-century music. The lyrics themselves have long since passed into public domain, of course. But I assume that a particular recording of such a song may be under copyright by the performing artist. Is that right?

Yes, I think this is the case.

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Wed May 28, 2008 3:39 am

In the United States, anything produced before the first Mickey Mouse movie (the law states a particular number of years but whenever Mickey is in danger of going into the public domain they increase the number of years) is protected. The protection extends to a particular production of a work of art, though the work itself might be in the public domain. So, for example, you want to freely trade a song that was originally written and produced in 1861. So far, so good. But if the artists who recorded the version you are trading made that recording after 1926, their interest as performers, and their producer's interest remains intact even though the songwriter's interest has lapsed. Recordings made before 1926 aren't very high quality, unfortunately. Alternatively, you can look for recordings that were made by the federal government. Back when we had a government that did these sorts of things, the feds sent people around to record old roots music (and get the performers to sign releases). Much of what you find as period music on these sites was actually recorded in the 1930's and 1940's by various New Deal programs or by the Smithsonian. Or you can get out your banjo and tape recorder and do it yourself.

Copyright is another way for the wealthy to protect themselves against the free market.

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Fri May 30, 2008 12:18 am

Very insightful! I guess for freebies I should look for music recorded by the Marine Corps Band, etc.?

I hate copyrights...except when it's my own stuff that I want protected. :siffle:

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Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:10 pm

Thanks for the title Drakken. Always wondered what that tune was, and assumed it was from the era. If you watch the Ken Burns documentary, you'll be whistling it for weeks.

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Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:40 am

Crimguy wrote:Thanks for the title Drakken. Always wondered what that tune was, and assumed it was from the era. If you watch the Ken Burns documentary, you'll be whistling it for weeks.


I started whistling Dixie for days when I had started to play AACW. :D

Also, would the original soundtracks from Gettysburg, Gods and Generals, and Glory count? I'd love to have the themes from Pickett's Charge while I play AACW. :coeurs:

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