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Some competition on Nappy game from Hungary...
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:01 am
by PDF
The guys from Hussars Games (For Liberty! and 1848) just signed with Matrix for a Napoleon in Italy game:
http://www.matrixgames.com/news/news.asp?nid=437
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:02 pm
by Adlertag
I think a better title for this game should be "Bonaparte in Italy" as for the First and Second coalition, he is not yet "Emperor Napoleon"...
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:18 pm
by Sol Invictus
I will almost certainly buy it. There cannot be too many Napoleonic games on the market. If I had to choose though, NC would get my ducats, hands down.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:42 pm
by Ashbery76
Looks a bit crap.
Napoleon Bonaparte is still alive...
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:24 pm
by Duc_d_Heilsberg
... in our games !
But the hungrian game is not as serious as it would be (his title is not made for historic gamers
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: Napoleon as an Emperor only existed since 1804; before it was the "general Bonaparte") and suffers from an horrible look !
Ageod is far more seducing concerning ergonomy

. But the game principles have to be tried to get a more inspired feeling of "Napoleon in Italy"...
I'd rather buy NCP than this one, for sure.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:27 am
by Jojo le Gouffy
...Et en plus on pourrait discuter sur la façon dont Bonaparte était en Italie.
Il y fut comme général au service du Directoire.
Il y fut comme Premier Consul.
Ce n'est pas exactement la même chose.
De toute façon, parler d'un Napoléon en Italie, c'est faire preuve d'un évident manque de rigueur historique.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:55 am
by Pocus
Perhaps a marketing pressure... Napoleon as a name is surely vastly more known than Bonaparte. Although the public targeted should be aware of the difference on the other hand.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:41 am
by Duc_d_Heilsberg
Pocus,
Voilà un bon argument ! Le jeu s'adresse à des joueurs intéressés donc qui ont un minimum de culture historique ou qui sont prês à l'acquérir.
Ce sera donc toujours un mauvais calcul que de déformer volontairement l'histoire dans un jeu historique
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.
Chez Ageod, vous ne tombez pas dans ce piège. Je ne connais que AACW mais il me semble que vous faites attention à bien respecter l'esprit de l'époque afin de plonger le joueur dans l'ambiance.
C'est aussi pour me rassurer sur le respect de l'histoire et la profondeur de la simulation que j'aimerais lire les notes de conception (ou un document équivalent sur les détails du projet NCP) de votre prochain opus.
Et le look de vos jeux

n'a rien à envier (loin de là !!) à celui

leure: de vos collègues hongrois.
Bonne continuation.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:47 am
by Pocus
merci... je t'ai envoyé un message.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:17 pm
by PBBoeye
How, in Europe of all places, can the name Bonaparte be not well known? Napoleon, Bonaparte... To most educated people those names are synonymous with one another. Now, some ignorant US football fans here in the states might think of some players named 'Napoleon', but c'mon....
Really now - Bonaparte, Kennedy, Churchill, Zidane - the names are easily recognized.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:33 am
by DirkX
PBBoeye wrote:How, in Europe of all places, can the name Bonaparte be not well known? Napoleon, Bonaparte... To most educated people those names are synonymous with one another. Now, some ignorant US football fans here in the states might think of some players named 'Napoleon', but c'mon....
Really now - Bonaparte, Kennedy, Churchill, Zidane - the names are easily recognized.
isnt there a (US) football player named Bonaparte Zidane ?
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:23 pm
by wyrmm
Who could forget Napoleon Dynamite?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:36 pm
by Henry D.
PBBoeye wrote:How, in Europe of all places, can the name Bonaparte be not well known?...
Hungary, maybe?
There is still an old prejudice prevalent among many europeans about the vast majority of americans being totally ignorant in matters of european history or politics (as if the average european's knowledge about american history and politics was any better

), but frankly, as much or little as this may really be true, it also goes for the average european without saying nowadays, the younger the specimen in question, the worse...
Just a couple of days ago I stumbled across some really cheap quizshow on german Television, were a very blonde young woman was asked which country was invaded by the coalition forces in Gulf-War I (1991). Her answer, for which she had to consult a member of the audience, was: "SAUDI-ARABIA"!
The catch: The young lady in question was studying to become a teacher of history...

leure: Really makes You fear for the future of mankind, I tell You...
Regards, Henry
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:17 pm
by Rafiki
Henry D. wrote:Just a couple of days ago I stumbled across some really cheap quizshow on german Television, were a very blonde young woman was asked which country was invaded by the coalition forces in Gulf-War I (1991). Her answer, for which she had to consult a member of the audience, was: "SAUDI-ARABIA"!
The catch: The young lady in question was studying to become a teacher of history...

leure: Really makes You fear for the future of mankind, I tell You...
No worries; Gulf War I is too recent to be considered history (yet). Hopefully, she'll learn by the time it is

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:09 pm
by Henry D.
Rafiki wrote:No worries; Gulf War I is too recent to be considered history (yet). Hopefully, she'll learn by the time it is
That's exactly what my wife said in the ladies defence, but she was serious about it!
My reply: Yes, darling, sure, but still, I like to think that we had a little bit of a greater knowledge about "not yet historical but neither quite current anymore" events, too, back in my days.

apy:
Regards, Henry (whose history class' thesis in high school was about The Falkland War back in 1992, when Hector was a whelp and dinosaurs still roamed the earth

)
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:21 pm
by Adlertag
Henry D. wrote:My reply: Yes, darling, sure, but still, I like to think that we had a little bit of a greater knowledge about "not yet historical but neither quite current anymore" events, too, back in my days.

apy:
You are so much right !
History begins the last second before the current one.