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Have you guys ever thought about doing a more boardgame faithful conversion of this game? I don't know how the rights work with Paradox doing the PC version but I for one would love a game that was more like the boardgame, maybe a bit streamlined like the WW1 game.

Maybe after Vainglory? Or is this impossible due to the existing conversion. I simply love this period of history, it is THE most facinating period in my book. Even if the Paradox version is fine I can't help but wish there was a more "hardcore" edition who prefer the boardgame style, turn based is the best way to play these games imho. Especially the way WW1 seems to work.

Ditto.

I vaguley remember a news from Paradox several years ago that they have bought the Europa Universalis rights from Phillipe. I could be mistaken though.

Were those rights permanent or just a license?

I own the boardgame Europa Universalis from Azure Wish (and PhilThib who owned the rights).
I bought this game before the first version of Paradox PC game was created and played a lot but it was a monster game, already with a sort of "patch" (for the boardgame), ie an additional counter board.
A great boardgame but it needed too much of all : time, players...

Take a look : (click on the right to see an image of the map).

http://chretien.vincent.free.fr/index2.htm

I would have prefered that look to be honest. Making a more faithful adaption might not compete with the Paradox version since this would be for more hardcore players.

I must confess that I had no idea that Phillipe was the key person for EU- it, and the first Civ (and second) along with RRT and especially RRTII and Colonization remain the key reason as to why my live-in girl-friend left me on the 6th year.
Mind you, Imperialism also had a hand, combined with my apathy of course.

What happened to Padrick from the original team at Paradox that produced EU?

Patrick Backlund ? I left Paradox 2-3 years ago

IIRC, Patrick left Paradox to work in other (non-game) parts of the computer industry

(Of course, a better place to "investigate" this is at the Paradox forums; a lot more people with knowledge about this over there )

Good Luck getting any answer from Paradox!!

PhilThib wrote:Patrick Backlund ? I left Paradox 2-3 years ago

IIRC, Patric Backlund was asked to leave Paradox after the release of Victoria. He then worked as a Freelance writer for IDG Sweden and - according to his LinkedIn profile - he now works as a Technical Writer at Hill & Knowlton

I miss Patric, he was a cool guy. Greven, too, but he, too, left to pursue other interests.

Was Greven the historian on the team? I recall having some long (but interesting) discussions with him waaay back in the days...

Strategy wrote:Was Greven the historian on the team? I recall having some long (but interesting) discussions with him waaay back in the days...

Yeah, he was mostly involved with the historical game design. He was indeed great to talk to.

Ageod's very own calvinus (Luca Cammisa) developed a turn-based PC adaptation of the boardgame in 1997 before Paradox had its try.

If he approves, I can also upload the game here. For now, here be the manual.

Spooky wrote:IIRC, Patric Backlund was asked to leave Paradox after the release of Victoria. He then worked as a Freelance writer for IDG Sweden and - according to his LinkedIn profile - he now works as a Technical Writer at Hill & Knowlton

What a shame Patric left the gaming industry- we had a few good exchanges on the Paradox board- me talking about the random rebel event unsettling the game especially! (along with the Belgium guy who is now a miserable mod (Rebel?):bonk ) , as well as about Sweden herself- a country I visited 5 times and adore.

Jayavarman wrote:Ageod's very own calvinus (Luca Cammisa) developed a turn-based PC adaptation of the boardgame in 1997 before Paradox had its try.

If he approves, I can also upload the game here. For now, here be the manual.

Don't know if this got overlooked, but I'd love to see this, provided it's OK for the people involved.

BTW, not that Calvinus doesn't deserve credit and kudos for very many things, he isn't part of AGEOD's very own, though he is a member of the extended family, since AGEOD is publishing the game(s?) he has developed

I love Swedish girls! Once had a pen-pal from there. t

tagwyn wrote:I love Swedish girls! Once had a pen-pal from there. t

Relax.

Rafiki wrote:Don't know if this got overlooked, but I'd love to see this, provided it's OK for the people involved.

Here you go!
History of Europe 2.0 (1492-1792) by Luca Cammisa
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/51524/HOE.zip

Not sure if it will still be compatible on your system.

Wow! Did Cal distribute that as shareware?

If anyone wants to take a look, I suggest Dosbox with the "loadfix -d" command.

Thanks Jayavarman

I'll check with Calvinus to make sure it's OK

Tamas wrote:Wow! Did Cal distribute that as shareware?

If anyone wants to take a look, I suggest Dosbox with the "loadfix -d" command.

How do I get the sound/music to play?

Jayavarman, is that the original version you have uploaded, or is it the version with references to Europa Universalis (as in the boardgame, I imagine)?

EDIT: This looks to be the revised edition, with references removed; thanks Jaya

No idea on how to make sounds working, sorry.

I developed the game even before 1997! The first version came out in late 1995, so the original sound engine is really old (14 years ago).

Calvinus was good enough to e-mail me a copy back then. It was a fine game, and a good recreation of the boardgame on the computer.

DON wrote:Calvinus was good enough to e-mail me a copy back then. It was a fine game, and a good recreation of the boardgame on the computer.

Indeed. HoE was the first "historical" game I ever played. I was about 11 or so at the time. I was so excited. Luca referred me to Paradox's adaptation, and the rest is history.

Jayavarman wrote:(...) and the rest is history.

Pun intended?