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Swedish Grenadiers

Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:41 pm

I bought this game and was impressed with it. However, I noticed a few historical inaccuracies with the Swedish uniforms. Turns out the Swedish Grenadier units in the game all have special grenadier caps. In actuality, there is little evidence that the mitre (grenadier cap) was worn by most Swedish grenadiers. Most of the few surviving examples (most of them are actually in Russian hands) of Swedish mitres most likely belonged to Pomeranian or Estonian units and not Swedes. I do however think that the Dalregimente wore mitres, but they were more of the exception than the rule. Even the Lifegaurds were not known to wear mitres. Check out the links below concerning grenadier caps.

http://blogg.tacitus.nu/?p=2396

http://blogg.tacitus.nu/?p=854

Also the uniforms of Narke-Varmland and Jonkopings regements should have red lining and red cuffs. I know this may be hard to do, AGEOD, but please add in the karpus hats that were present in several Swedish regiments early into the war, such as the Narke-Varmland regiment and the Vastmanland regiments.

Overall, great game, I love the gameplay and replay value of the game.

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:56 am

The artist is no longer on commission, so it's hard to change the pictures. We may try a little modding though...can you find some pictures of the concerned units in full view (not the sole cap)...or find an existing unit in the game with a similar cap, so we may possibly adapt the graphics.

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:45 am

The grenadiers seem to have had the same uniform as your average enlisted Swedish soldier. The baltic and german companies in the game could have the grenadiers that are currently in use for the Swedes. The Livgarde did have a bit of a different uniform than the average Swedish soldier. http://www.tacitus.nu/gnw/armies/sweden/livgardet2.htm
See the link for an example. Narke-Varmland and Jonkopings Regiments had red piping like this modern drawing of the Jonkopings Regiment battle of Helsingborg shows: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lWlXY The karpus itself is very tricky and was generally replaced later in the war by the tricorne, and if the artist is not on contract these earlier units, that's fine with me. I'd keep the Dalregementet the same though as it currently is. Oh, and Narke-Varmland had the most men at one point in the Swedish army I believe. I think that might have been at Poltava, so if another company or two was added to that regiment, that may not hurt either. http://www.tacitus.nu/gnw/battles/Fraustadt/swedes.htm Here's a link with the uniforms at Fraustadt. It'll show ya what Narke Varmland wore. Oh, and one interesting thing to note is that the Swedish uniforms at some points in the war were so worn down that they were hardly recognizable. I read in a book by Oscar Browning that at Poltava, the Swedes put straw in their tricornes to show they were on the same side. The winter of 1709 took a toll not only on the troops, but on the uniforms as well.

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:20 am

May be something like this would do...without the artist, it's close enough
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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:47 pm

That'll work. Look's good!! Thanks.

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:19 pm

How are Swedish uniforms looking for the next patch? Thanks.

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:10 am

Will be in normally

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:23 am

I noticed that the Livgardet of the Swedes had the red cuff lining and karpus. However, I think that the Lifegaurd may have just worn yellow and blue. All they had extra was a lot more gold lace on their uniforms. It was Jonkopings and Narke Varmlands regiments. who wore the red lining and karpus, not the guard regiments. Oh, and Vasterbottens regiment looked like Jonkopings and Narke Varmlands, but with white. The uniforms still look great though. Remember, one of the best references in my opinion is www.tacitus.org. He does a great job with Hoglund's book in interpreting the uniforms of the Swedes during the Great Northern War. On another note, I think you all did a fantastic job with the new patch overall. I really like what was done. Keep up the good work! As my Swedish ancestors would say, skål !!

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:18 pm

How are the uniform updates going? Just checking in to see how things are on that front. If I can be of assistance concerning the uniforms, I'd be glad to offer my services.

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:02 am

Uniforms won't be personalized per regiment, it would make the DB unmanageable. So unless something of importance is dramatically wrong, there won't be more changes for now :papy:

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:11 pm

Ok. That's fine. The only thing that is dramatically wrong with uniforms is the updated version of the lifeguard. Sorry if I confused you all earlier with the provincial regiments. :bonk: Really, they should look like your average infantry regiment with a bit more frills.

(Wondering if you could color one of the french guard units in Orleans army in Paris to look like the lifeguard with the yellow lining instead of the red. This may be the best solution. Just change all red and white to the yellow except the necktie, which probably should stay white.)

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:15 pm

Something like this ?
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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:59 pm

Perfect!! Thank you!

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:30 pm

I was wondering if it has been noted that the Swedish lifeguard uniforms have not been changed in the latest patch to the more correct version noted in the two previous posts. This is just a friendly reminder in case it was forgotten.

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:11 pm

Change was done but post patch, so it will be in the next one :indien:

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Re: Swedish Grenadiers

Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:54 pm

Thank you!

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