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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:36 pm

Bohémond wrote:
Thank you for reporting

Regards


:hat:


One thing. Have you changed something regarding the Flota de Indias (Treasure Fleet in the game)?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:58 pm

Nikel wrote:


One thing. Have you changed something regarding the Flota de Indias (Treasure Fleet in the game)?


Nothing I can recall. Did you find something wrong ?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:20 pm

Not precisely an expert, but reading a bit I think it is wrong.


Just the name is wrong. It was called Flota de Indias, not Flota de Oro.

There were two in fact:

Flota de Nueva España: Spain, Canarias, Santo Domingo, Veracruz (Mexico).

Flota de Tierra Firme: Spain, Canarias, Cartagena de Indias (Today in Colombia) and Portobelo (Panama).

Then both to La Habana, Azores and Spain.

The common travel could be joined or not.


However in the game I have seen it in Rio de La Plata Estuary (Buenos Aires)?


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Once a year, and not all the years, in the game (not sure of this), is it monthly?

What is right is the arrival to Cadiz instead of Sevilla (changed before 1700).


Now the problem is that we have not the historical arrival sites in the map.

Besides there was the Galeón de Manila, fortunately Manila is in the map, but not Acapulco (Mexico).

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:40 pm

Ingame the fleet path is

March : Rio de la Plata Estuary
April : Coast of Brazil
May/February : CARIBBEAN SEA
June/January : Haitian Sea
July/December : Middle Atlantic
August/November : Cap Trafalgar
September/October : Cadiz

One year round trip, so seem ok

As for the name, it can be changed ingame and it will fix in next mod version

For Galeon de Manillas, it was added as structure (state treasury) in Manilla , kind of workaround


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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:22 pm

OK, thanks for checking the path and periodicity and the changes added.

It is the best we can get I guess.

If you are advanced in the game, has the fleet ever been captured?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:15 pm

Nikel wrote: If you are advanced in the game, has the fleet ever been captured?


I have only ever played against the AI and they do attack the treasure fleet from time to time, but never very effectively. I usually send Du Casse with some ships to join it as an escort. Château-Renault is too valuable as a fleet commander to risk in a repeat of Vigo!

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:26 pm

Nice, because historically was captured only three times in more than 250 years (1628, 1656 and 1657).

The forth "event" was during the WSS in Vigo (Rande) in 1702, the fleet was completely captured or destroyed, but without treasures, already disembarked!

Sorry, another one and famous, the San José in 1708.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_g ... _Jos%C3%A9
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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:34 pm

Regarding the names of the Spanish Armies.

Ejército do Sul is wrong, "do Sul" is portuguese, in spanish should be "del Sur".

There are too many armies in Flandes. At least 3 should be only detachments (Lieja, Brujas and Namur).

Bedmar was de "Gobernador General", so I guess he should be commanding the "Ejército de Flandes" or perhaps "Ejército de los Países Bajos".

Tilly no idea what should be commanding.


In Italy, Sicilia and Taranto look like detachments. Napoli, better "Ejército de Nápoles" in spanish?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:17 am

We will fix what we can but stack name are often changed as soon as player or AI proceed to reorganization and generic names are then given. And as mentioned before player can modify the stack name at his convenience ingame,

Let's say it is not in the top priority for now.
We are working on Honnor of War in order to make them work properly and that besieged faction can offer them too.

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:51 pm

Bohémond wrote:
We are working on Honnor of War in order to make them work properly and that besieged faction can offer them too.



This would be a huge gameplay improvement. In my last playthrough, I found that the AI would usually accept Honours of War when I offered them and that my own besieged units would accept Honours of War and surrender major forts without my input.

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:40 pm

Bohémond wrote:We will fix what we can but stack name are often changed as soon as player or AI proceed to reorganization and generic names are then given. And as mentioned before player can modify the stack name at his convenience ingame,

Let's say it is not in the top priority for now.
We are working on Honnor of War in order to make them work properly and that besieged faction can offer them too.

Regards



OK, you are right, bug-free mechanics are more important and you are the expert here :)

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:35 pm

Bohémond wrote:Thank you HootsMaguire !

Credits to my teammate Delcastel for sugesting, moding, testing...... and playing this mod :hat:

Regards

Thank so much for this info keep it up. nulls brawl

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:22 pm

Bohémond wrote:
We are working on Honnor of War in order to make them work properly and that besieged faction can offer them too.

Regards



This feature was added in RoP Gold, but is it working correctly?

At least some texts are missing or wrong.


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After the 3 turns did not get them, but this strange message :blink:

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If you manage to get them working, will you take a look to RoP?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:06 pm

Interesting mod with a host of necessary fixes. Thanks for making this.

The storms are incredibly punishing though. It's early 1702 in my current test run and the entire Spanish treasure fleet just disappeared in a storm. Does that mean I won't have a treasure fleet for the rest of the game?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:21 pm

Same issue in our ongoing PBEM game, the treasure fleet was destroyed by several storms due to winter 1709 forced weather event.

As a workaround, a Galleon unit was added to the ForcePool and buildable in Cadiz.

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:23 pm

Next time, send it to Mexico, better weather ;)

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:06 pm

Hey, to the developers, thanks a lot for sharing this Mod with us! But please fix the weather a bit because my treasure fleet is just getting disappear in the storm.clash of clans mod apk  ​​ :(

Though, it's still wonderful that this Mod is getting fixed even today, thanks Bohémond & Nikel & Team AGEOD for all your support & hard work!
I just love computers & Games!

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:27 pm

Bohémond wrote:Same issue in our ongoing PBEM game, the treasure fleet was destroyed by several storms due to winter 1709 forced weather event.

As a workaround, a Galleon unit was added to the ForcePool and buildable in Cadiz.

Regards


Thank you for the tip and the quick response. To follow up: I built the new Galleon and assembled a new fleet to protect it. How do I go about getting this fleet to work as the destroyed treasure fleet did?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:58 pm

ned_for_sped wrote:
Bohémond wrote:Same issue in our ongoing PBEM game, the treasure fleet was destroyed by several storms due to winter 1709 forced weather event.

As a workaround, a Galleon unit was added to the ForcePool and buildable in Cadiz.

Regards


Thank you for the tip and the quick response. To follow up: I built the new Galleon and assembled a new fleet to protect it. How do I go about getting this fleet to work as the destroyed treasure fleet did?


One of the Galleon Unit needs to have a specific name (Fleet treasure event design limitation)
I will post the fix tonight done by Delcastel.

You have to leave it in Cadiz. In November, it will move to Cap Trafalgar and follow the scripted route.

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:37 pm

Nice!

Delcastel also knows your business? :)

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:03 am

Below is the dropbox link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg8b811jywzpjx4/Galleon.7z?dl=0

Unzip in a temporary location,

The mdl file goes into WSS/GameData/models. One file will be overwritten. Delete the .cached files.
The uni file goes into WSS/GameData/Units. One file will be overwritten. Delete the .cached files.

You will need to destroy the Galleon Unit and build a new one in Cadiz.

Regards

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:05 am

Nikel wrote:Nice!

Delcastel also knows your business? :)


Recently, he is doing a lot more than me.
I am quite busy with French and Indian War from JTS, now WDS. But don't tell anybody ;)

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:10 am

Bohémond wrote: I am quite busy with French and Indian War from JTS, now WDS. But don't tell anybody ;)


Another great game that could use a little fine-tuning -- I can't wait!

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:12 pm

DVX wrote:
Bohémond wrote: I am quite busy with French and Indian War from JTS, now WDS. But don't tell anybody ;)


Another great game that could use a little fine-tuning -- I can't wait!


I am busy playing it. No anticipated modding. :)

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:17 pm

Bohémond wrote:
DVX wrote:
Bohémond wrote: I am quite busy with French and Indian War from JTS, now WDS. But don't tell anybody ;)


Another great game that could use a little fine-tuning -- I can't wait!


I am busy playing it. No anticipated modding. :)



Perhaps DVX confused it with WIA?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:58 pm

Nikel wrote:
Bohémond wrote:
DVX wrote:
Another great game that could use a little fine-tuning -- I can't wait!


I am busy playing it. No anticipated modding. :)



Perhaps DVX confused it with WIA?


Hmm, now that you mention it, the French and Indian War scenario for WIA2 could use a little « mise à jour ». Just a thought :innocent:

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:06 am

DVX wrote:« mise à jour ». Just a thought :innocent:GB WhatsApp download

mise a jour? Sorry?

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Re: Mod for 1701 WSS campaign

Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:02 pm

Shini wrote:
DVX wrote:« mise à jour ». Just a thought :innocent:GB WhatsApp download

mise a jour? Sorry?


An update. Bohémond is a Francophone, so I meant it as a little Seven Years' War joke.

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