korvessa
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I did it! I won the Swedish Scenario!

Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:40 am

Kind of a weird AAR I know - but hopefully give you some idea. I finally realized that to win, you can't let Magdeburg or Kassel fall. So I pushed Gustavus over there with the man army right way. I sent Horn up to take Kohlberg but left Baner with Gustavus (GIIA). I decided to leave Mecklenburg to Leslie & Willie S-W. Once GIIA had Magdeburg secured, I basically left it to the Brandenburgers. GIIA then traveled southwest and started taking cities beginning at Frankfurt/Main. After traveling down the Rhein, I found he had to take most of those little cities to get a secure supply line.
Meanwhile, Horn took Frankfurt/Oder. He got sidetracked for awhile defending Magdeburg, but eventually was able to head for Prague then Vienna.
Up north things were very slow. It took Friedrich 34 months to take Lubeck; While it took Leslie 34 months to take Hamburg. Leslie won numerous battles against the garrison during that time.

Final totals (Swedes/HRE)
Morale: 179/26
VP: 3499/3619
Losses: 58,167/ 96,444
Combat Power ratio: 100/58

Some oddities I don't understand:
Baner again got promoted over GIIA. They had been in the same stack all game long and when Baner got promoted to number one - he suddenly outranked Gustavus. What an outrage! {grin} . I wonder if you have two generals with the same rank it goes alphabetically?

A couple of times, there would be a battle where the Swedes would be declared the winner, but suffer more casualties. Then the so called winner was demoted for losing that same battle it said he won.

Sometimes when a leaders stack was completely destroyed - they just kind of hung out there , getting in the way

Sometimes it would call off an assault for not having a breach, when there was one.



THIRTY YEARS WAR: SOLO AAR
Settings:
Fog of War Off Activation Penalty
Delayed Commit Small Navy easy
Foreign Entry Easy Extended Pool +100%
Attrition Historical Supply Easy
Replacements Manual Traffic penalty Low
A.I. “Private”

Easy settings to be sure – but so far I can’t even beat these
Sep 30
100 (morale)/0 (VP)
GIIA(821) to Landsburg; Baner(145) Gartz; Horn(113) Kohlberg;
Leslie (286) to New Brandenburg; cav converts
Cards: mines in Kohlberg; Saxony Brandenburg; Defwrk in Magdeburg
Reinforcements: 2 SwIB, 1 Sw CB, 1 depot
Oct 30
100/18
All cards fail; Sieges as above; Weimars enter
Cards: mines -Landsburg; France, England
Nov 30
100/36
All cards fail; sieges continue;
Siege arty, cav supply – Stockholm to Kohlberg
Cards: Mines Landsburg; Trier, Mainz
Dec 30
100/54
Cards fail;
GIIA defeats Conti near Landsburg;
Cards: mines Landsburg; Gunner Kohlberg; Provinces
Jan 31
100/72
All cards fail; Sieges continue; Purchased Sw IB
DefWk, contrib Magdeburg
Cards: mines Landsburg; Gunner Kohlberg
Feb 31
100/70
Cards fail; sieges continue
Cards: ask French; mines Landsburg, Gunner Kohlberg
Mar 31
101/128
Gunner fails;
GIIA captures Landsburg; Reinforcements & replacements
Gunner Kohlberg, Landmine Gartz; Saxony, Brandenburg; DefWk Magdeburg
Apr 31
101/147
Cards fail;
GIIA marches to Magdeburg
Cards: Mines Gartz, Gunner Kohlberg; Saxony, Brandenburg e
May 31
102/195
Diplomacy fails
GIIA defeats Pappenhiem near Magdeburg
New Brandenburg falls to Willie S-W
Cards: Saxony, Brandenburg, France
Jun 31
103/228
Cards Saxony, others fail
GIIA defeats Pappenhiem near Magdeburg
Baner captures Gartz; Willie S-W besieges Rostock
Cards: mines & gunner Kohlberg
Jul 31
104/286
Horn captures Kohlberg; marches toward Frankfurt
Hamilton & Friedrich arrive
Replacements; GIIA chases Pappenhiem
Cards: mines Lubeck; Saxony, Brandenburg
Aug 31
104/315
Cards fail
GIIA defeats Pappenhiem near Luneburg
Cards: Mines Rostock; Saxony, Brandenburg
Sep 31
104/345
Saxony enters war; Brandenburg fails
Horn besieges Frankfurt, Willie S-W sieges on
Cards: mines & gunners in Frankfurt; Brandenburg
Oct 31
104/371
Mines work, others fail
GIIA marches on Kassel
Cards: Gunner Rostock; France
Nov 31
104/398
GIIA breaks siege of Kassel -Defeats Tilly
Hungarians finish off Pappenhiem
Hamilton & 2IB dispatched to Magdeburg
Dec 31
104/424
Mines work, nothing else
Hamilton skirmishes near Magdeburg; Arnim besieges Erfurt
Cards: mines in Frankfurt
Jan 32
105/476
Brandenburg joins allies
Horrn captures Frankfurt (4 months);
GIIA winters in Kassel; Willie S-W sieges on
Cards: mines & gunners Rostock
Feb 32
105/504
GIIA moves ½ army on Gottingen
Replacements
Cards: mines & gunners Rostock
Mar 32
105/531
Horn to Dresden; GIIA chases Tilly
Diplomacy: France, Trier, Mainz, Koln; Replacements
Apr 32
105/558
All Cards fail; Tilly escapes – GIIA gives chase
Contributions from Berlin
Gunner Rostock; Diplomacy Mainz, Trier
May 32
105/580
Diplomacy Trier
Willie S-W skirmishes near Rostock; Arnim captures Erfurt
Tired of Chasing Tilly, GIIA dispatches Bernie S-W and marches on Frankfurt
Cards: mines & gunner Rostock
Jun 32
105/608
Cards fail; Prussians besiege Havelburg
Horn diverted towards Erfurt;
Jul 32
105/636
GIIA besieges Frankfurt
Cards: Mines Frankfurt; Trier
Aug 32 106/714
Willie S-W takes Rostock (14 months); Leslie to Hamburg
Baner, Bernie S/W & Tott sent off to pick off small forces
Horn advances towards Tilly
Cards: mines & gunners Frankfurt/Main
Sep 32
106/778
Cards fail; Baner wins skirmish near Bamberg; Leslie besieges Hamburg
Cards: Contributions in Stralsund
Oct 32
118/852
Horn defeats Tilly at Magdeburg; GIIA captures Frankfort/Main
GIIA joins siege of Manheim; Baner to Frankfurt
Cards: Mines Manheim, Gunner Hamburg; Baner scorched earth
Nov 32
118/885
Skirmishes: Leslie in Hamburg, Prussians in Havelberg
Arnim besieging Pilsen; Tilly escapes Horn
Bernie S/W to Frankfurt
Cards: Gunner Manheim; Trier
Dec 32
119/953
Mainz; GIIA takes Manheim; Leslie wins skirmish near Hamburg
Replacements
Cards: Mine Lubeck
Jan 33
Nothing much new
Feb 33
119/1000
Prussians capture Havelberg
Cards: Diplomacy France
Mar 33
119/1030
Leslie wins another skirmishes in Hamburg
Hamilton 3IB to Erfurt; Horn to Kassel
GIIA Heidelberg; Baner & Bernie to Hamburg; Prussians to Magdeberg
Replacements
Cards: D/W in Kassel; Mines Lubeck, Gunner Hamburg; France
April 33
120/1087
Cards fail;
Horn wins a couple of skirmishes, but is delayed on march to Kassel
Baner wins a skirmish near Wurzburg
Erfurt falls, Hamilton moves in;
Cards: mines in Wurzburg ; Diplomacy France
May 33
120/1128
Cards fail; Horn wins another delaying skirmish
Cards: Mines Pilsen, Gunner Heidelberg
Jun 33
120/1162
Cards fail, Horn breaks siege of Kassel
Cards: mines & gunner Heidelberg, D/W Kassel; France
Jul 33
119/1196
GIIA wins battle at Heidelberg, but is blamed for defeat????????
Cards: mines Wurzburg, Gunner Heidelberg; Trier
Aug 33
130/1301
Horn & Tilly dance around Kassel; Gottingen falls to Horn
GIIA takes Heidelberg; marches towards Augsburg
Cards: mines Wurzburg
Sep 33
130/1352
Arnim captures Pilsen; Horn withdraws to Kassel
Cards: D/W Frankfurt; Gunner Hamburg; Trier, Mainz, Brandenburg
Oct 33
130/1389
Landmine Wurzburg;
GIIA besieges Stuttgart
Nov 33
130/1415
Horn marches to Magdeburg
Dec 33
133/1515
GIIA captures Stuttgart; Hamilton recaptures Erfurt
Horn defeats Tilly in bloody battle near Magdeburg
Cards: landmine Wurzburg; D/W in Frankfurt
Jan 34
131/1564
Horn defeats Tilly again
Cards: Mines Wurzburg, gunner in Hamburg
Feb 34
131/1615
GIIA defeats Feria near Mannheim
Wallenstein Murdered
Mar 34
131/1660
Baner leaves Wurzburg to join GIIA, Hamilton replaces him
GIIA Hielbronn; GIIA defeats Feria, Hamilton finishes him off
Apr 34
131/1714
All cards fail
May 34
137/1815
GIIA captures Holbronn moves on to Ulm
Hamilton captures Wurzburg, marches on Bamberg
Prussians march on Luneberg
Cards: Gunner Hamburg, mines Luneburg
Diplomacy: France, England, UP, Koln, Mainz, Trier
Jun 34
138/1874
Mainz, UP; Friedrich captures Lubeck (34 months)
Hamilton defeats Feria near Bamberg
Cards: mines & gunner Ulm
July 34
135/1972
GIIA captures Ulm
Cards: gunner & mines Prague
Aug 34
135/2027
Cards fail
GIIA wins skirmish near Augsburg
Cards: mines & gunners Prague
Sep 34
144/2203
All cards fail
GIIA captures Augsburg, marches on Munich
Horn Captures Prague, marches on Brunn
Cards: mines & guns at Hamburg, diplomacy on bishoprics
Oct 34
144/2266
Koln, Mainz, others fail; France enters war; Ruthven enters – to Prussians
GIIA smashes Cardinale Infante’s army near Ulm, pursues
Colonel loses battle near Phillipsburg
Diplomacy: Koln, Mainz, Munster
Nov 34
144/2399
Munster, Mainz
GIIA destroys Cardinal (Tott killed) – splits up for winter
Cards: gunner Brunn
Dec 34
144/2424
Mines work
Horn captures Brunn – winters there
Cards: DW Heidelberg; gunner & mines in Hamburg; Mainz, Munster
Jan 35
144/2486
Cards fail
Cards: gunner & mines in Hamburg
Feb 35
146/2647
Ruthven takes Luneburg, Hamilton takes Bamberg
Friedrich wins battle in Hamburg (note: results say win, but suffered more losses, but they lose seniority for losing battle)
French arrive; Cards: mines & gunners in Hamburg
Mar 35
144/2714
All cards fail; Replacements
GIIA, Banner & Bernie march on Munich
Horn & Armin march on Viena
Ruthven & Prussians siege on
Cards: mines & gunner Hamburg
Apr 35
144/2789
Cards fail
GIIA & co. defeat Cardinale Infante then Feria near Munich
Cards: mines & gunner in Hamburg
May 35
145/2857
Baner somehow outranks GIIA now – (alphabetical?)
they win battle outside Munich – Baner sent to Hamburg
Horn besieges Vienna
Turrene wins skirmish; marches on Koblenz
Breze army besieges Trier
Saar army besieges Mainz
Diplomacy: German Bishoprics
Jun 35
144/2919
All cards fail
Sieges continue
Diplomacy German Bishoprics
Jul 35
143/2982
Koln, Mainz – others fail
Cards: mines & gunner in Munich
Aug 35
155/3110
Turrenne wins victory outside of Koblenz
GIIA wins storms Munich in bloody battle
Horn wins skirmish outside Vienna
Baner takes control of Hamburg siege
Cards: mines& gunner Vienna; Declare Bremen,
Sep 35
160/3222
Banner captures Hamburg (2yrs, 10 months), marches on Bremen
GIIA marches to help in Vienna
Cards: mines in Vienna
Oct 35
159/3293
Cards: gunner in Vienna
Nov 35
179/3499
Vienna Surrenders! Major Victory! (26/3619)

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Durk
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Re: I did it! I won the Swedish Scenario!

Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:12 am

Excellent report. Thanks for sharing.

To a few of your points.
Promotion is individual but also related to probabilities. Gustavus was just not as luck in the determination.

Winning a battle but losing more troops is common for superior commanders in all AGEOD games. This is mostly because they keep their troops from breaking even with adverse odds.

An assault is most often called off if the leader is not activated. But this can also happen due to pre-battle calculations determining the assault factors.

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Re: I did it! I won the Swedish Scenario!

Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:40 pm

Durk wrote:Excellent report. Thanks for sharing.

To a few of your points.
Promotion is individual but also related to probabilities. Gustavus was just not as luck in the determination.

Winning a battle but losing more troops is common for superior commanders in all AGEOD games. This is mostly because they keep their troops from breaking even with adverse odds.

An assault is most often called off if the leader is not activated. But this can also happen due to pre-battle calculations determining the assault factors.


Hi Durk,
thanks for reply but I think you are missing my question slightly.

1) with regard to promotion, I get that some get promoted and others don't . etc.. The Gustavus & Baner were both in the same stack at level one. The stacks seem to automatically place the senior leader on top. So after Baner's promotion to level one, he was put ahead of Gustavus. So that is why I am assuming that when leaders have the same seniority level, it defaults to alphabetical order. Personally, I don't think anyone should ever outrank a monarch. Except another monarch.

2) I get that you can win a battle while suffering more casualties - no problem there What I thought was weird is that the battle result said they won the battle, but at the same time the message box in the lower right hand corner said they got a seniority demotion for losing the same battle.

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Re: I did it! I won the Swedish Scenario!

Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:52 am

1. Yes, I did miss answering your question. I did not realize both leaders had the same seniority. I am pretty sure leaders are not stacked by seniority within leaders of the same rating, only by absolute seniority as in a table. In the Roman game, AJE, many times I have a leader who is the faction leader being outranked by another three star leader. The game does not recognize the king's right to lead except by merit, apparently.

2. It is because the battle outcome report is generated from data not used in the leader promotion/demotion decision. What you saw is very rare, but I like this possibility. You will know of several battles where the winning leader was chastised after winning a battle.

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