captain14 wrote:As stated in our hst file on the F6 there is "no" naval exp lease between France of Spain for either party. There previously was one and the French player cancelled it in order to try and get the ships to revert to Spanish control, it didn't work. Now there are no treaties for either party in this regard. We already tried all this before posting.
I'm aware that the Active Lend Treaty is not present in the hst file you posted. I was demonstrating where to find it for Durk, because it sounded like he was not aware of this. From my experience, if the treaty has not expired, it will be listed in the Diplomacy window.
captain14 wrote:I believe this was to facilitate loaned units because players were previously finding that loans simply didn't occur. That was our previous experience and it was corrected with the patch.
I know from testing that GBR can lend Fleets to Russia, but Lending Land Stacks does not work. I tested with both Russia and Austria. The Diplomacy steps work as expected. With both Fleets and Land Stacks, the receiving nation must first request to have these forces lent, and GBR must agree to those proposals and insure that the Lend SO is clicked on on the stacks in question when replying with "OK" to the treaty proposal. But although the treaty is listed on the next turn as having been successful, the control over the Land Stack does not change.
captain14 wrote:No sure about major powers but this is certainly incorrect re minor nations. We have had minor nations lend multiple stacks in several games including the posted current one.
You mean, while France already has units on load from a minor nation, France can request further units from the same minor nation?
I've never looked into that. It may be WAD, but I don't know. I've never actually read anything on how lending is supposed to work. I mostly figured this out through testing.
captain14 wrote:The mixed units stacks with host and loaned troops. You may have a point, we have not examined that as yet.
I'm not sure what you mean by that statement.
Again, from my testing, when ExFor Land units are mixed with the receiving nation's units within a stack, canceling the Lend Treaty works, in that the ExFor units, owned by the nation whose treaty is being canceled, are separated into their own stack, and control of this new stack is then returned to the owning nation.
I haven't tested this with fleets. Maybe it just doesn't work with fleets.
I've also not tested what happens when the treaty simply expires, because it is a very time consuming test. You cannot simply run turn after turn until the treaty expires.
If you supply run turn without every player nation having orders, the AI will ask to take over those nations when attempting to execute the turn, and if you don't allow the AI to take over, the turn cannot be executed. If you allow the AI to take over the other nations, it will wreak havoc on your test environment.
You can get around this by turning the AI off, but there is still another issue. Running multiple turns without quitting the game is dangerous because of a memory leak in the game engine. Eventually, after 3 or more turns --from my experience-- you will get an access violation, and from what I've read in the forums, it can corrupt your hst and ord files. The corruption doesn't happen often, but sometimes. Although I have my installation on an SSD it is still time consuming to restart the game over and over again
so I've haven't done that yet
*sigh* maybe I'll have to bite the bullet on this one