Durk wrote:Well Cpt O I must disagree. As Russia I have two Swedish fleets as 'loaners.'
Durk wrote:There are also no in game mechanisms to 'break' the treaty which loaned the units.
Thanks for your thoughts, but they clearly do not apply to this situation.
captain14 wrote:Yes my evidence supports Durk's observations.
captain14 wrote:On several occasions with minors as France I have gone back and requested more units. Sometimes it is granted sometimes not depending on the AI. Those further requests however cannot occur until the 48 turn (or so) grace period has expired.
We have tested this on several occasions so it is not in doubt. The 48 turn applies to the period you cannot go back and make another request in. It does not refer to the return of units. We originally thought the same as you Orso but after multiple test we learnt the above to be the actual case.
Nation's are only allowed to Lend to each allied nation one Land-Stack and one Fleet-Stack at a time. That means that if for example France has two allies, she may Lend one Land-Stack and one Fleet stack to each at the same time.
captain14 wrote:Now in our particular game France (the borrower and current controller) did cancel the naval treaty (in an attempt to get the ships returned to Spanish control, which was only done so they could take on replacements). It didn't work
We have done all this before posting btw.
I guess we could try your wait and see advice but that's hardly fair for the Spanish player.
That's for the tip on the British I will let our British player know as he currently has a loaned Russian fleet.
captain14 wrote:As stated in our hst file on the F6 there is "no" naval exp lease between France of Spain for either party. There previously was one and the French player cancelled it in order to try and get the ships to revert to Spanish control, it didn't work. Now there are no treaties for either party in this regard. We already tried all this before posting.
captain14 wrote:I believe this was to facilitate loaned units because players were previously finding that loans simply didn't occur. That was our previous experience and it was corrected with the patch.
captain14 wrote:No sure about major powers but this is certainly incorrect re minor nations. We have had minor nations lend multiple stacks in several games including the posted current one.
captain14 wrote:The mixed units stacks with host and loaned troops. You may have a point, we have not examined that as yet.
Exp. Forces (given/Received from)
Duration: n turns.
You have (given/received) forces (to/from) the other nation.
Click to break this treaty, using:
Cancel (Give/Receive) Exp. Forces
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