ess1
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Leaving Coalition

Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:17 am

Am in an MP pbem.

The last few turns has seen both Austria and Prussia leave the Allied Coalition. Players concerned have not asked for this or are able to reverse event.

Surely an MP game should allow the players to decide diplomacy. If not then what is the point in playing MP?

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Durk
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:51 am

While I am not specifically aware of the issues of your pbem, France in victory has a major influence on former coalition members diplomatic options. This is as it should be. Losers are not always able to choose their own fate.

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Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:56 am

ess1 wrote:Am in an MP pbem.

The last few turns has seen both Austria and Prussia leave the Allied Coalition. Players concerned have not asked for this or are able to reverse event.

Surely an MP game should allow the players to decide diplomacy. If not then what is the point in playing MP?


Perhaps the GB player inadvertently clicked on the symbol for each of these on the active treaty part of the ledger. This will cancel the membership.
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:25 am

I am certain I did not "click" twice over the two separate occasions country left.

@ Durk Not happy that the programme just does this.

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Pocus
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Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:05 pm

If you have the turn before this happens, then ask the host player to wrap everything is a zip and send it to us.
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Hofstadter's Law: "It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's law."

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Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:31 am

[ATTACH]39666[/ATTACH]

Herewith zip files that host kindly sent me.

Regards.
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ess1
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Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:24 am

Any news Pocus?

Anyone else with similar?
I now cannot give supplies etc. to Austria, Prussia or Russia.

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Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:15 pm

Bump

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Pocus
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:59 am

I missed this thread, very sorry. In the back of my mind I felt safe on this issue because I was waiting for a mail about that in my box so knew (well, thought...) that I could not miss it.

I'll check your saved game from here then.
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:27 am

Many thanks Pocus.

Hope you take time off to watch the rugby!!

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Pocus
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Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:24 pm

Well, the problem is not solved, far from it sorry. This seems to be only semi reproducible, my last attempt was with Prussia remaining but Austria leaving. What's more there is no indication in the diplomatic entries that Austria is leaving.

Did you try to run the turn again and see what happens?
Have you resumed your game with an additional script to make sure the coalition remains as you wish? Perhaps this can be the safest and fastest way to keep going, even if not perfect. I will take another look Wednesday though. I can perhaps ask PhilThib to set up a recurring event putting back nations in their historical coalition.
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