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Where to put guard units?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:18 am
by ReneTS
Hi

Can guard units still be committed if placed under a division commander? Or do they need to be placed directly in an army stack?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:39 am
by PhilThib
To be committed, Guards must be with a general with the 'Guard Commit' ability Having them in a division has no impact whatsoever. Only the cpmmanding officer matters

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:28 am
by RebelYell
PhilThib wrote:To be committed, Guards must be with a general with the 'Guard Commit' ability Having them in a division has no impact whatsoever. Only the cpmmanding officer matters


Stack commander or battle commander?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:43 am
by Pocus
PhilThib wrote:To be committed, Guards must be with a general with the 'Guard Commit' ability Having them in a division has no impact whatsoever. Only the cpmmanding officer matters



Let me rephrase PhilThib sentence. 'Committed' means The Guard takes precedence and is prioritized before any other unit when filling the front and support lines.

But if the frontage is too vast for the non-guard units, guards will fill the holes. So it is possible to fight guards on any occasion where a stack is overwhelmed or with not enough troops to fight with common rank and file units.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:11 pm
by vaalen
Pocus wrote:Let me rephrase PhilThib sentence. 'Committed' means The Guard takes precedence and is prioritized before any other unit when filling the front and support lines.

But if the frontage is too vast for the non-guard units, guards will fill the holes. So it is possible to fight guards on any occasion where a stack is overwhelmed or with not enough troops to fight with common rank and file units.


Thank you for this. It answers a question I was going to ask. And it makes perfect sense!

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:51 pm
by Captain_Orso
RebelYell wrote:Stack commander or battle commander?


From PhilThib's statement, they must simply be under the command of a leader with the Commit the Guards ability.

So if they are in a division, it would be enough for the division commander to have the ability.

If their division commander does not have the ability, but their corps commander does, that would work too.

If neither has the ability, but the army commander has it, and the army commander is commanding the battle, that too would suffice.

But in the last case, if the army commander had to MTSG to commit the guards, that would be rather chancy.

The safest bet would be to explicitly give a commander with the Commit the Guards ability command over these units; either through division or corps command, or having them in an army stack with an army commander with the ability.