minipol wrote:Haha ok
Meaning a detailed list of what troops where engaged at a certain location
James D Burns wrote:OOB site: http://www.marksrussianmilitaryhistory.info/BELG14.html#DIVISIONS
LoupVert wrote:Looks like a great source you do have there Jim, among the the most researched page online on the topic. It may be souped-up by names of commanding officers though, which are:
LoupVert wrote:Just read up your #12 post Caranorn and it sounds all clever. I'm about to get a commemorative map by the IGN (1914-1918 THE GREAT WAR
from LIEGE to the YSER and the SOMME), probably this coming week, and will be able to get more details in a couple of weeks, thus will confirm your proposal or suggest otherwise.
You wrote that you "read up a bit more on the various phases of the Belgian Campaign", could you please name the sources you got through so I can focus myself somewhere else?
Schéinen dag nach!
LoupVert wrote:and I would have then missed all the amazing pictures he made available online, quite a time-machine!
I have order his book (he wrote with 3 scientists). It's 588 pages, containing 60 maps, and 400 pictures.
When it arrives, I will hopefully be able to verify what has been posted in this topic.
LoupVert wrote:Out of interest:
The Belgian Army, 1917.
The Belgian army, 1918 (Situation 28 September 1918).
Available for download : The report from the Ministry of War regarding the army budget for the year 1914, with a detailed description of the army in peace time strength and the answers given to several parliamentary questions. Presented to the Belgian parliament on March 10, 1914. (Zipped Word 7.0 document, 36Kb.)
Sorry, only available in Flemish.
Shri wrote:See, if you add up all the troops in the German Army you get about 50% of the total German Strength on Mobilisation.
Pre-war divisions in Germany were 15000 Combat troops not 12000- as Reserve Troops, Landwehr etc were mobilised.
Similarly, i am sure Russia and Austria have those issues.
So if you buff BELGIUM, the whole balance will go away. In real- Schlieffen (the whole Schlieffen plan itself as per modern documents is said to be a myth as there was very little forces or detailed plans to implement it) was not delayed due to Belgium but by LOGISTICS, the army could not send enough men and material at the same time to the front in time and hence; at MARNE they collapsed. The roads and railways were just enough for Fodder + Food + Ammo or for new troops.
Also substantial troops were withdrawn for- Masking Fortresses like Antwerp, Maubenge etc and for sending to the Eastern Front.
Already, in game- Reaching LILEE is like reaching PARIS!!. As the pace of advance is too slow!!. You can never reach the Marne even in September first turn.
LoupVert wrote:Minipol, is it "14-18: Oorlog in België" that you gonna get? If so, would you know if there's a frenchspeaking version around?
Shri wrote: In real- Schlieffen (the whole Schlieffen plan itself as per modern documents is said to be a myth as there was very little forces or detailed plans to implement it) was not delayed due to Belgium but by LOGISTICS, the army could not send enough men and material at the same time to the front in time and hence; at MARNE they collapsed.
Nevertheless by September 3, a month after their invasion and well within their schedule, German armies cross the river Marne. To safeguard against the likely fall of Paris, the French government moves south to Bordeaux.
The Germans are within 30 miles of the capital when a mainly French force finally halts and then rolls back their relentless advance. During four days of fighting (Sept. 5-8, the battle of the Marne) the German army is pushed north of the river.
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