typhoon
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Saw this at matrix not seen a good answer yet

Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:01 pm

Got to ask this since I couldn't find anything in manual:
How do you replace non-Russian units (Ukrainians, Baltic, Finnish...)?
In several of my games my non-Russian were never got replacements once depleted of infantry (unit remains only with artillery) even that my infantry pool was well supplied, unit was in depo and stance was on retreat stance (as suggested by manual).

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Ebbingford
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:27 pm

This is because there is no faction listed on the F2 page for these units, they don't use the normal RUS faction. They use RBA, RFN, RSI, RAR, and RUK.
I think the devs need to look at this.
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Byrd
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:57 pm

Just link em' to the Russian pool.

Same with the western Entente. Got 18 different pools to check. Tedious and imo not neccessary.

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Durk
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Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:20 am

Good explanation of the different pools. This is not clear at the outset and some players may not know to scroll to right to uncover all the sub-factions which need replacements.

I like all the different replacement pools for several reasons. The polyglot challenge of Russia and Austria, as well as, the British Empire and other colonial reinforcements, is reflected well. Yes, it can be tedious and time consuming, but necessary it is, if you wish to have this level of sophistication in ethnic pools. With these nations, you are not managing a single unified nation, but a collective of nationalities. If you want simplified replacements, run Germany or France. Or, play one of he Great War games without this level of detail.

Also, when a component region is overrun, replacements from those regions are lost. This level of detail is lost if all units are 'one' nationality. This is not, after all, an abstract high-level simulation. It digs into more detail while maintaining a strategic focus.

Finally, what makes several AGEOD games unique are the uniquely detailed recruitment pools they are sensitive to. This began, as far as I can tell, way back with the original Napoleon game, carried on through WIA and the earlier American Civil War game. With ROP and RUS the diversification expanded and became more specific. This fine tuning of who joins when for what reason is really a nice feature I love.

smiljkovic73
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Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:39 am

Durk wrote:Good explanation of the different pools. This is not clear at the outset and some players may not know to scroll to right to uncover all the sub-factions which need replacements.

Scroll right where? I've tried clicking on <> arrows on Russian pool but nothing happens, and I still lack those non-russian replecments...

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Ebbingford
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Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:35 am

This is the problem as mentioned in the original post. As Russia there are only 3 factions listed on the F2 page, Russian, Serbian and the CMN one. There are no others to scroll to.
"Umbrellas will not be opened in the presence of the enemy." Duke of Wellington before the Battle of Waterloo, 1815.



"Top hats will not be worn in the Eighth Army" Field-Marshal Viscount Montgomery of Alamein K.G.





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smiljkovic73
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Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:39 am

Ebbingford wrote:This is the problem as mentioned in the original post. As Russia there are only 3 factions listed on the F2 page, Russian, Serbian and the CMN one. There are no others to scroll to.


So, that's a bug in 1.0.2 afterall 8which I am using and I'm btw one who posted that question on Matrix forum :) )

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Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:44 am

This is due to the sub-factions not having a NativeFlag entry under the EN1 faction (Eastern Entente). Files have been submitted to correct this, not sure if they'll make it in for the upcoming patch or not though.

smiljkovic73
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Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:10 am

Altaris wrote:This is due to the sub-factions not having a NativeFlag entry under the EN1 faction (Eastern Entente). Files have been submitted to correct this, not sure if they'll make it in for the upcoming patch or not though.


Well, take it from someone who plays EE extensivly...it is nasty bug and makes non-russian units almost totaly unusable...so please make it for next patch :)

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