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Planes Inside Structures

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:07 pm
by Templer
[color="#FFFF00"]Public beta Patch 1.01 RC7 (upd 01 oct) [/color]

You can stick your Air Force inside a 'Festung'.
This way you're soften the required/provided command penalty.

But an airbase and many planes inside a structure (a city, a fort, a festung...)?
Is this a good design decision?
At least, it's kind of wierd.

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:45 pm
by caranorn
Fortresses cn be pretty big as can be cities so I see no problem with this. I expect the air units will take attrition damage during siege resolution as any other unit...

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:51 am
by Pocus
You'll also impact overcapacity on all combats units in case of a battle. So that's not a great tactical decision.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:38 pm
by John Sedgwick
Pocus wrote:You'll also impact overcapacity on all combats units in case of a battle. So that's not a great tactical decision.


I don't understand - I often put air units in fortresses for their command and artillery bonuses - are you saying besieged units will actually perform worse in combat despite the advantages of air support?

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:28 pm
by ohms_law
If you put more elements inside any structure than the structure's capacity value (which is 25 for forts/redoubts, if I remember correctly), then those units will begin to suffer combat penalties.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:46 pm
by John Sedgwick
Huh, I did not know that - makes sense, and I figured it was something like that, but I couldn't find anything about it in the manual. Thanks, ohms_law.

Is there a way to see a structure's available capacity in-game?

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:35 pm
by The Red Baron
Select a unit inside a structure then hover your cursor over the small target symbol in the element detail panel. It will show you the structure's safe limit.

Forts/Redoubts have s safe limit of 25*fort level.
Cities/Towns have a safe limit of 10*city level.

If you have a fortified city, the fortification safe limit level overrides the city safe limit level; i.e., troops inside a level 2 fort, which is part of a level 6 city, will have a safe limit level of 50 elements, not 60 (e.g. Brest-Litovsk).

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:36 pm
by John Sedgwick
Ah, thanks Red Baron. I thought I'd seen it in a tooltip somewhere once upon a time, but couldn't remember where.