Gribeauval
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units disappearing version 102

Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:41 pm

Thanks a lot to Miguel for having updated the España 36 game.

I have started a new game (as nationalist against republican AI) and everything is better ; the AI uses RGD relatively well , there is only one Solchaga colonel, the morale of the republicans doesn't drop, there are small graphical improvements, you can't build a lot of units in a single region, ....

But i have faced a strange bug in April 37 : some falangist and requete units become "blank", they have no picture associated, they have a low cohesion (10 on 10) and the stack to which they belong has a power of zero.

I haven't run the game as administrator since he has always worked very well.

I don't know what to do.

If you need a saved game, I can furnish it (but I don't know what files do you need).

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:19 pm

Thanks Gribeauval,
I already knew that issue, but still working on it.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:25 pm

Also there is no NAC Generic 3 unit portrait, only army portrait.

I know it means a lot of work, but even if there is no biography, could be something else displayed for the description of general and units instead of (..)?

Looks ugly this way, your second game, TYW, is more polished in aspects like this.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:41 pm

Just tried FOTN and some portraits missing for reserva vasco in Bilbao. 1.01 had them.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:21 pm

Ok, re FOTN.

I restarted the game; clicked on update from the start screen and it said there was a new version - but it was 1.01. downloaded and installed and there were the units in Bilbao - but different 3 Brigades and a truck. I re-installed 1.02 from the forum and the Bilbao units are now 3 Ferrandi and one truck. But now the Ferrandi have a photo.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:08 pm

Blank units stationed in a city&fort were preventing assault for the besieger in my game..

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:11 pm

Baris wrote:Blank units stationed in a city&fort were preventing assault for the besieger in my game..

yes, its weird. Looking for an explanation of this.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:15 pm

Nikel wrote:Also there is no NAC Generic 3 unit portrait, only army portrait.

I know it means a lot of work, but even if there is no biography, could be something else displayed for the description of general and units instead of (..)?

Looks ugly this way, your second game, TYW, is more polished in aspects like this.


The names could be added but this in fact doesnt apport much. If someone can help here, i could add the biographies.
In TYW development i was more experienced. Next game i hope to be better in some aspects too.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:42 pm

OK.

Then a little suggestion for your next game, whatever it is ;), add a Bibliography section to the manual.

It was lacking both in 1936 as in TYW, IMO it adds some kind of "seriousness" to the game, and I am pretty sure you used more than one book for any of your games.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:05 am

More than one probably yes :bonk:

As you say both games lack it, but it seems that i forget finally to add it in TYW because i remember to be preparing that bibliography documentation for the Appendix, but at the end i forgot to ad it :grr:

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:15 pm

You still may do it with a manual addenda, better late than never ;)

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:22 pm

Hmm.. curious. Was the FOTN scenario changed between 1.01 and 1.02? It is not just that my 1.02 initially had missing pictures but different units and values.

In 1.02 I now have 6 commandante Ferrandi in Bilbao ! (3 in reserva vasca, 3 in other units)
In 1.01 it is no Ferrandi but reserva vasca has 3 brigades with power of 123..

Anyway, I realise I am probably the only person in the world playing this scenario at the moment so I don't expect an immediate resolution!

Would you suggest I play the 1.01 version or the 1.02 version?

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:30 pm

Tallebois,

That seems a bug, i'm checking what happened here.

edit:

after rebuilding the scenario the issue dissapears.
Replace the scen by this please.
FotN.zip
(28.73 KiB) Downloaded 61 times


Maybe i have to rebuild all the scens to see if the other issue is related.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:40 pm

Nikel wrote:You still may do it with a manual addenda, better late than never ;)


You mean in a separate document?

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:55 pm

Yes, why not?

If you do not want to or cannot modify the pdf of the manual it is the only way.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:35 pm

Thanks for the quick response. Yes, this seems to work.


Leibstandarte wrote:Tallebois,

That seems a bug, i'm checking what happened here.

edit:

after rebuilding the scenario the issue dissapears.
Replace the scen by this please. FotN.zip

Maybe i have to rebuild all the scens to see if the other issue is related.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:11 pm

Glad to hear that you are building a third game, Leibstandarte.

Is this bug (the "empty" units) in España 36 difficult to fix ?

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:35 pm

I'm sorry to insist, but I like this game.
Are there any news about a fix for the bug that I have encountered in Espana36 (these "empty" units) ?

Could Mr Thibault and Mr Malacher help you to solve this mistery, Miguel ?

By the way, I have noted that these "empty" units are only requetes or falangists.

Regards.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:14 pm

Thanks Gribeauval,
We are still working on this issue, and yes, its a hard one.
If I feel I cant solve it, of course I will ask Pocus for his help. Please be patient.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:08 am

Does this help - as with FOTN I have just compared a scenario in 1.01 and 1.02.

In the big scenario - whole war, playing as the Nationalists. In Burgos:

1.01 the garrison has Sagardia with a portrait
1.02 Sagardia has no portrait

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:40 am

I have identified that the issue starts around March-April 1937. Something is happenning there and related with falangist and requetes.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:45 am

Taillebois wrote:Does this help - as with FOTN I have just compared a scenario in 1.01 and 1.02.

In the big scenario - whole war, playing as the Nationalists. In Burgos:

1.01 the garrison has Sagardia with a portrait
1.02 Sagardia has no portrait



This is due to the lack of NAC Generic 3 unit portrait commented above, also happens with Álvarez-Rementería in Sevilla.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:21 pm

Miguel, I remember that an event has arisen before this issue : this event said that the Requetes and the Phalange were unified.
Maybe is there a problem here : you have perhaps coded a true unification, instead of a cosmetic event ??

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:03 pm

I think its fixed.
Just unzip this file in the events folder.
It was related with the event you mentioned. But it was another event added as a plugin.
So if this is the solution, we have to remake the patch correctly adding the pdf as Nikel says.
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Re: units disappearing version 102

Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:30 pm

I have downloaded the new plugin. I have launched my saved game, at hte same turn, but the issue is still here.

Must I restart the game from the beginning ? Or one turn before the issue arise ? Or just before the event is fired ?
i don't know exactly when this event happened.

Regards.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:32 am

You have to reload the turn before the issue appears.
It is 1st or 2nd week of April.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:49 pm

Hi Miguel, I have reloaded the previous turn and it seems working : no more "empty" units.

But something new happens : in the South, some of the Requetes and Falangists units become "standard" infantry regiments (those with the kaki uniform). They seem having been upgraded.
I have never seen this before.
Is it normal ? Are these units slowly integrated in the regular metropolitan army ?
The issue is that the Requetes are losing their morale bonus in the process.

Regards.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:50 pm

That's wad, the unification event mades regulars the requetes and falange units.

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:44 pm

But historically did the uniforms change?

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Re: units disappearing version 102

Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:49 am

I have to check that but I remember to see regular uniforms with the Falange icon on the shirt.

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