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Level 20 (twenty) harbor in Sagadahoc, ME?

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:59 pm
by willgamer
Seems a little excessive for an obscure level 2 town! :mdr:

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:14 pm
by Ol' Choctaw
There should be more to it than that. It was home to most of the shipyards of the north and the 5th largest harbor in the US at the time.

I don’t know that the town name is correct but the location is.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:00 pm
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
SAGADAHOC COUNTY:This county contains ten towns and one city, as follows: City of Bath, towns of Arrowsic, Bowdoin, Bowdoinham, Georgetown, Perkins, Phippsburg, Richmond, Topsham, West Bath and Woolwich.

Sagadahoc County was formerly included in Yorkshire, and later, in Lincoln County; having been set off from the latter and incorporated in 1854

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:02 pm
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
As in it was founded in 1854. The towns name means "mouth of the big river" possibly as it is along the Kennebec River. I wouldn't mind moving and living there myself. I've always liked Maine.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:53 am
by willgamer
Wow! you guys rock... talk about a "who knew"... :sherlock: :love: :thumbsup:

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:16 am
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
It is possibly misplaced. As the city of Portland is just to the south of Sagadahoc. Unless it is part of the region? Then it needs to be changed to just Portland.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:17 am
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
That is the port level.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:25 am
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
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A map of Sagadahoc county as of 1895.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:38 am
by GraniteStater
Bath Iron Works (shipyard) - dunno if they were there in CW2 era.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:06 am
by Ol' Choctaw
In the 1860 census it was the 5th largest harbor in the country with the most shipyards anywhere. There were at least 22 shipyards.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:19 pm
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
Then the name should be changed to Bath and be given a higher city level.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:28 pm
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
However, only light ships and squadrons should be able to be constructed their as all of the independent shipyards located there largely constructed Clipper Ships.

There wasn't anything that mass produced ships for the U.S. Navy until 1884 except for over 200-small time shipbuilding firms which can be counted for this particular conflict.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:09 pm
by Ol' Choctaw
The city size is about right. Cities of less than 5,000 are level 1 and below 10,000 level 2. (this is not always strictly adhered to, else New Orleans and St. Louis would be level 20 cities.

Bath is the city. The region is Sagadahoc. Regional populations are mostly ignored.

Bath had a population of 8,000 and 600 itinerate seamen.

Some one made the decision not to include a shipyard because they didn’t build naval ships.

I don’t think anything in particular needs changed. It is a small town with a very large port.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:51 pm
by GraniteStater
Gen.DixonS.Miles wrote:However, only light ships and squadrons should be able to be constructed their as all of the independent shipyards located there largely constructed Clipper Ships.

There wasn't anything that mass produced ships for the U.S. Navy until 1884 except for over 200-small time shipbuilding firms which can be counted for this particular conflict.


Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, the first, since 1800.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:51 am
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
I meant at BATH not Portland.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:52 am
by Gen.DixonS.Miles
[quote="GraniteStater"]Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, the first, since 1800.[/QUOT


I meant at the City of Bath there were over 200- ship firms not the entire nation or Maine or Portland.