What music is in the game?

[Carnium]

I need help with Russian songs from SCW period i.e. what were the Russian "volunteers" singing.
The rest is almost done

[Leibst]

i have no idea Carnium.

[kongxinga]

I must say keep up the good work. I like espanha (especially fast bug fixes!), but the music list is somewhat lacklustre compared to that operatic experience in RUS or PON (PON had a LONG LONG song list.) I need more music to get into the mood, and for all I care it could be random folk songs from the various regions (Basque, Catalonia etc).

[Templer]

I must say keep up the good work. I like espanha (especially fast bug fixes!), but the music list is somewhat lacklustre compared to that operatic experience in RUS or PON (PON had a LONG LONG song list.) I need more music to get into the mood, and for all I care it could be random folk songs from the various regions (Basque, Catalonia etc).

I'm with you on this.

I like the music very well (a little sad, a little suspense, a bit of fear).
But I doubt whether the music really fits the subject.

I can live with it very well, but I also say it is far too little music in the game.
I hope the music mod will be offered soon.

[GlobalExplorer]

I don't know, what about this?

Red army choir - Echelon's song (Song for Voroshilov)

[video=youtube;myg8Q0r8JnQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myg8Q0r8JnQ[/video]

[GlobalExplorer]

Since the mod did not take much to make, I have uploaded I the version I have created for my own use. You can use it until Carnium is finished with his mod.

http://www.global-explorer.de/Espana_1936_Music.7z

Included are all files that you need to add 7 Civil War songs to Espana.

Extract, backup your original music.ini, then copy the files into your SCW/Sounds folder. (music.ini should be the only file that is overwritten)

To uninstall simply restore the original music.ini and delete all included mp3 files (for easy removal they have been named MODx.mp3)

I have left the 4 original songs in music.ini so I get no complaints. If you want to make alterations you can do so in music.ini.

Included songs in this file:

Music0 = MOD01 - A Las Barricadas.mp3
Music1 = MOD02 - Cancion del Falangista.mp3
Music2 = MOD03 - Cara al Sol Himno de la Falange.mp3
Music3 = MOD04 - Halt stand rotes Madrid.mp3
Music4 = MOD05 - Hijos del Pueblo.mp3
Music5 = MOD06 - La varsovienne.mp3
Music6 = MOD07 - Ay Carmela.mp3
Music7 = MOD07 - Las companas de acero.mp3
Music8 = SCW_002.mp3
Music9 = SCW_003.mp3
Music10 = SCW_004.mp3
Music11 = SCW MainTheme.mp3

[Bruit Bleu]

I don't know if you know this site, but it holds a lot of "himnos y canciones de la guerra civil" (with lyrics). Their quality may be poor, but I think they are free of rights.

http://www.guerracivil1936.galeon.com/canciones.htm

[Carnium]

I am more or less done with the first version. Today I will upload the songs and musics.ini for:
- all songs
- only Republican songs
- only Nationalist songs

Here is the list:
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[GlobalExplorer]

Bruit Bleu: I have gone through all songs on the site you posted and there are some rare songs that should be included!

Carnium: Very good idea to have two versions for Nationalists and Republicans. Looking forward to your mod.

Although I don't want to go into politics, the Republican songs have aged much better and much more charisma today, at least to me. I think we also have enough songs for the Nationalists but I find that I dislike most of the Franquist songs, they are somehow boring (did you notice how they are always exclusively sung by men?), and the songs of the Condor Legion are even somewhat dumb and embarassing, like most "Nazi" songs.

[GlobalExplorer]

Carnium, it would be cool if you could include "Halt´ stand, rotes Madrid" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsA25uyc1OE , and remove "Die Moorsoldaten" because that was a song of KZ-prisoners.

[Carnium]

Carnium, it would be cool if you could include "Halt´ stand, rotes Madrid" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsA25uyc1OE , and remove "Die Moorsoldaten" because that was a song of KZ-prisoners.

Will be done.
I got my info about this song at Wikipedia:

The song has a slow simple melody, reflecting a soldier's march, and is deliberately repetitive, echoing and telling of the daily grind of hard labour in harsh conditions. It was popular with German refugees in London in the Thirties and was used as a marching song by the German volunteers of the International Brigades during the Spanish Civil War. It was soon picked up by other nationalities and it appears in almost all the collected anthologies of Spanish Civil War songs.

Although I don't want to go into politics, the Republican songs have aged much better and much more charisma today, at least to me. I think we also have enough songs for the Nationalists but I find that I dislike most of the Franquist songs, they are somehow boring (did you notice how they are always exclusively sung by men?), and the songs of the Condor Legion are even somewhat dumb and embarassing, like most "Nazi" songs.

That is true. Party also because the situation around the world the left is much more popular and their songs were more melodic and had better lyric. On the other side, the Franquist songs were "outdated" even by the mid 30s, not to speak about Nazi/Fascist songs. They died with the movement and are quite funny to listen these days.
I simply adore Lilli Marlen, but there is no way to "squeeze" it into this pack. Maybe if I cheat a bit

[GlobalExplorer]

Carnium, I grew up in East Germany, and we sang (i.e. had to sing) "Die Moorsoldaten", and other songs in school. The songs by Ernst Busch were part of state propaganda in the GDR. That's why you will find these high quality recordings, which were made after the war.

At the time we were tought that "Die Moorsoldaten" was a song sung by prisoners in Sachsenhausen. Hence the text "Wir sind die Moorsoldaten, und ziehen mit dem Spaten, ins Moor" = "We are the moor-soldiers, we move with a spade, to the moor".

Of course many things were distorted in socialist schooling, so it may actually be wrong. But I would at least put a question mark next to this one.

But having said all that, you should actually keep it in. It was an important song sung by German communists at the time, and as such an important part of history.

[GlobalExplorer]

I'm to lazy to translate it, but definitely a KZ song.

--> Google translation

Wohin auch das auge blicket
Moor und heide nur ringsum
Vogelsang uns nicht erquicket
Eichen stehen kahl und krumm

Wir sind die moorsoldaten
Und ziehen mit den spaten
Ins moor

Hier in dieser öden heide
Ist das lager aufgebaut,
Wo wir fern von jeder freude
Hinter stacheldraht verstaut

Wir sind die moorsoldaten
Und ziehen mit den spaten
Ins moor

Morgens ziehen die kolonnen
Durch das moor zur arbeit hin
Graben bei dem brand der sonne
Doch zur heimat steht der sinn

Wir sind die moorsoldaten
Und ziehen mit den spaten
Ins moor

Wir sind die moorsoldaten
Und ziehen mit den spaten
Ins moor

Auf und nieder geh'n die posten
Keiner, keiner kann hindurch
Flucht wird nur das leben kosten
Vierfach ist umzäunt die burg

Wir sind die moorsoldaten
Und ziehen mit den spaten
Ins moor

Wir sind die moorsoldaten
Und ziehen mit den spaten
Ins moor

Doch für uns gibt es kein klagen
Ewig kann nicht winter sein
Einmal werden froh wir sagen
Heimat, du bist wieder mein!

Dann zieh'n die moorsoldaten
Nicht mehr mit den spaten
Ins moor

Dann zieh'n die moorsoldaten
Nicht mehr mit den spaten
Ins moor

[Carnium]

Carnium, I grew up in East Germany, and we sang (i.e. had to sing) "Die Moorsoldaten", and other songs in school. The songs by Ernst Busch were part of state propaganda in the GDR. That's why you will find these high quality recordings, which were made after the war.
But having said all that, you should actually keep it in. It was an important song sung by German communists at the time, and as such an important part of history.

I grew up in communist/socialist Yugoslavia
This song is really a KZ song, but it was also used in Spanish Civil war.
Check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peat_Bog_Soldiers

This song was written by prisoners[1] in Nazi moorland labour camps in Lower Saxony, Germany. The Emslandlager[2] ("Emsland camps") - as they were known - were for political opponents of the Third Reich, located outside of Börgermoor, now part of the commune Surwold, not far from Papenburg. A memorial of these camps, the Dokumentations- und Informationszentrum (DIZ) Emslandlager, is located at Papenburg.

In 1933, one camp, Börgermoor, held about 1,000 Socialist and Communist internees. They were banned from singing existing political songs so they wrote and composed their own. The words were written by Johann Esser (a miner) and Wolfgang Langhoff (an actor); the music was composed by Rudi Goguel and was later adapted by Hanns Eisler and Ernst Busch.[3]

It was first performed at a Zircus Konzentrazani ("concentration camp circus") on 28 August 1933 at Börgermoor camp. Here is Rudi Goguel's description of it:[4]
“

The sixteen singers, mostly members of the Solinger workers choir, marched in holding spades over the shoulders of their green police uniforms (our prison uniforms at the time). I led the march, in blue overalls, with the handle of a broken spade for a conductor's baton. We sang and by the end of the second verse nearly all of the thousands of prisoners present gave voice to the chorus. With each verse, the chorus became more powerful and, by the end, the SS - who had turned up with their officers – were also singing, apparently because they too thought themselves "peat bog soldiers".
”

The song has a slow simple melody, reflecting a soldier's march, and is deliberately repetitive, echoing and telling of the daily grind of hard labour in harsh conditions. It was popular with German refugees in London in the Thirties and was used as a marching song by the German volunteers of the International Brigades during the Spanish Civil War. It was soon picked up by other nationalities and it appears in almost all the collected anthologies of Spanish Civil War songs.

I can take it out and replace with Halt´ stand, rotes Madrid or simply add the later. Your call!

[GlobalExplorer]

That is true. Party also because the situation around the world the left is much more popular and their songs were more melodic and had better lyric. On the other side, the Franquist songs were "outdated" even by the mid 30s, not to speak about Nazi/Fascist songs. They died with the movement and are quite funny to listen these days.

Some Nazi songs were very powerful in their way, like "SA marschiert"
One can feel a bit how depressing and frightening it must have been when these brown columns were marching on the streets.

[video=youtube;t1h3dAEod54]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1h3dAEod54[/video]

[GlobalExplorer]

I grew up in communist/socialist Yugoslavia
This song is really a KZ song, but it was also used in Spanish Civil war.
Check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peat_Bog_Soldiers

Proves only that you were right Carnium, and I was right too I think you should put both Moorsoldaten and Rotes Madrid in the mod.

[GlobalExplorer]

Carnium I strongly suggest that you use this version of "Spaniens Himmel - Die Thälmann Kolonne". (it sounds much more genuine than the modern versions which I believe were recorded in the GDR.)

http://www.global-explorer.de/Spaniens_Himmel.mp3

[Carnium]

Carnium I strongly suggest that you use this version of "Spaniens Himmel - Die Thälmann Kolonne". (it sounds much more genuine than the modern versions which I believe were recorded in the GDR.)

http://www.global-explorer.de/Spaniens_Himmel.mp3

Many thanks, but I am already using a more quality (stereo instead of mono) version that I have found here: http://www.sovmusic.ru/english/download.php?fname=diethae1
Hopefully this is not the DDR version

[GlobalExplorer]

I think this version from sovmusic is somewhat better quality, otherwise they are identical

[Carnium]

I think this version from sovmusic is somewhat better quality, otherwise they are identical

Excellent.
Then I just need to add "Halt´ stand, rotes Madrid" and the pack it more or less done.
Should be ready later today!

[ERISS]

Party also because the situation around the world the left is much more popular and their songs were more melodic and had better lyric.

Some Nazi songs were very powerful in their way, like "SA marschiert"

For S.A. was the left, the socialist part of nazism. Hitler had to cut it, in order to the gentry, using scared low waged workers, build for him his army toys. By the way, those slaves had been pleased too for it was mainly S.A. who scared them..

[GlobalExplorer]

For S.A. was the left, the socialist part of nazism. Hitler had to cut it, to the gentry, using scared low waged workers, build for him his army toys. By the way, those slaves had been pleased too for it was mainly S.A. who scared them..

That's an interesting point, and I absolutely agree with you, as I pointed out earlier in the thread that the SA was more of a left wing movement than many people believe. It was leftist fascist, if by definition a movement is left when it is for radical change, and fascist if it decrees that only strong and healthy people deserve to live. Whereas Franco was indeed right wing because he was in favor of tradition, church, establishment and all, his tendencies to fascism were more superficial and owed to political strategy.

Excellent.
Then I just need to add "Halt´ stand, rotes Madrid" and the pack it more or less done.
Should be ready later today!

Yes please please add it, it's so catchy, a bit like Freude, schöner Götterunken and shows a different, forgotten side of Germany.

Also don't forget to remove all accented and Umlaut characters if you haven't done so.
I would not be surprised if there isn't some maximum length to the filename as well, so I would keep them as short as possible.

Example: "Wir zogen uber's weite Meer", I would remove the ' because it could cause that the file is not loaded.

[GlobalExplorer]

Many thanks, but I am already using a more quality (stereo instead of mono) version that I have found here: http://www.sovmusic.ru/english/download.php?fname=diethae1
Hopefully this is not the DDR version

The DDR-version is the one I linked on the previous page. It is better quality, but the one you have from sovmusic fits better because it was obviously recorded on a gramophone.