Schwarzer Herzog wrote:The republican army has not discipline in this early time of war, for example I'd listened General Lister in an old interview that the anarchists columns to Aragon vote the actions to do for the next day, so how do you find this little discipline in the game : cohesion ? leadership of leaders ? force ? a plus or minus for these units ?
Leibstandarte wrote:The lack of leader for the anarchist is enough to make them worst at combat.
TheDoctorKing wrote:Also it is difficult to combine anarchist and regular Republican units. Basically, the Anarchists are a pain in the butt, useful for defending positions but pretty much handicapped on the offensive. They have a couple of leaders and you can form mixed brigades and divisions with them and get a few into the war.
the regular republican militia once you can get them trained up to regular status and formed into brigades.
ERISS wrote:* Surviving Makhno going to Spain: Maybe an interesting what-if, where Makhno might succeed in better organizing anarchists, uniting the commandment of whole republican side, and disminishing Moscow influence.
ERISS wrote:* Surviving Makhno going to Spain
TheDoctorKing wrote:So we have a possible capitalist/social democratic Spanish Republic, with French aid, and [now] a possible anarchist Spanish Republic, with Makhno commanding a cohesive and organized anarchist force. We probably ought to have some options for the Nationalists as well...
I see these as potential political option choices early on. Going to take a lot of work, though.
Ironclad61 wrote:... if Republica can score early succes can win more support from France for example with a more open frontier that means better supplies, weapons and more international brigades apart you dont only depend of soviet aid (cheaper resources from France).
ERISS wrote:I don't think. French Front Populaire feared revolution, what was starting in France. Spanish anarchists hope for a popular help, a succesful fench revolution. So, french Front Populaire suddenly gave to frenches many social and economical advances, all even not in their program and they had said impossible! It was successful: it made the french revolution end, the Left government made the french workers let the economy to bosses and to the State.
So, even at now, the spanish anarchists indirectly made the french Front Populaire still popular for french workers..
French Front Populaire won't make a spanish revolution sucessful, which could (re)start one in France. At best, French government would make like Russia: an help if it let the spanish revolution die.
caranorn wrote:It's a spanish popular front defending itself against reactionary forces.
ERISS wrote: anarchist population was too cool (hoping for international bourgeois help, they voted against many anarchist leaders): they let the government survive.
end of WW2, the french occitan maquis claimed the will to help the basque and catalan republican resistants
Schwarzer Herzog wrote:[ moved from Nationalists thread ]
the anarchists columns to Aragon vote the actions to do for the next day,
Durk wrote:Actually, if you can restate you ideas of the war in game terms, your ideas might me available for modding.
For instance, explain how these potential forces impact units, leaders, income and tactics?
ERISS wrote:Funny how the trotskits advocate what they destroyed when they had power, acting like, and even worst than the Madrid governement.
Do as we tell, not like we did.
Anarchists, Durruti, in Spain: Yes!
Makhnovists in Ukraine: No.
You may ask for being included in the beta forum, where there is some material, but I don't think the game will be continued. Or maybe a small patch in a far future.
Durk wrote:in Spain This was a collective, localize commune.
Very different than our idea of anarchists as bomb throwers.
Durk wrote:Well, kind of exactly like in the Ukraine, except in Barcelona it was an industrial model, not a rural model.
Durk wrote:Kind of funny. I hope you meant to be funny by calling Barcelona merely a town.
I get your point, but still - there are/were differences in what syndicalism meant.
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