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Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:52 pm

A must have thread to get us into the Spanish Civil War mood :thumbsup:

Spanish Civil War is interesting for a lot of us, because it is a kind of prelude to World War 2 and it has the classic feel of the clash of two totally different ideologies and a hint of things to come to Europe and beyond.

My knowledge about this conflict is still rather limited, but I saw a few interesting movies and documentaries about it:

[color="#FFFF00"]DOCUMENTARIES[/color]
The Spanish Civil War - excellent classic documentary series from Granada Television that is sadly not available on DVD.... BUT you can see it on youtube:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6

The Spanish Civil War - a bit dated and dull French production from the 80s.
I am waiting for two years for the price to go down on this product: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Defenders-Of-The-Faith-Spanish/dp/B000RJEIIY

[color="#FFFF00"]Some newsreels and other stuff that are in public domain:[/color]
http://archive.org/details/MovietoneItalianEthiopianWar
http://archive.org/details/guerra_civil_204
http://archive.org/details/0539_Spain_in_Revolt_R2
http://archive.org/details/0540_Spain_in_Revolt_R3
http://archive.org/details/spain_in_revolt
http://archive.org/details/PossiblyToda
http://archive.org/details/1936-09-09_Terrified_Civilians_Flee_Air_Raid
http://archive.org/details/1939-Im-Kampf-gegen-den-Weltfeind
http://archive.org/details/1957-04-08_Spanish_Revolution_Anniversary

[color="#FFFF00"]MOVIES[/color]
Land and Freedom - love it as it shows what a sad mess it really was. Trailer for the movie.
There Be Dragons - seems rather interesting. Trailer is HERE.
Soldados de Salamina. Trailer is HERE.


[color="#FFFF00"]BOOKS[/color]
Interesting book from Antony Beevor called The Battle for Spain: http://books.google.si/books?id=PtPelshBWCMC&dq=battle+for+spain&hl=sl&sa=X&ei=-ntBUrj3CYmStQb8o4GIAw&redir_esc=y
A word of warning: DON'T buy The Spanish Civil War (released in 1982) from the same author as Battle for Spain (released in 2006) is a revised edition with new information from the Russian and German archives!

Interesting lists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_Civil_War_films
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spanish_Civil_War_films

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Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:04 pm

Land and Freedom is indeed a great film, as you say, Carnium. Loosely based in Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia" a crude depiction of the Civil War, the people who came from abroad to fight just for their ideas and the fights between communists and anarchists inside the Republicans. A must see.

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Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:38 pm

I can recommend Beevor's "The Battle for Spain".
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Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:40 pm

Squad Battle SCW will make a great tactical companion game.

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Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:33 am

I can recommend Beevor's "The Battle for Spain".


+1

Also, I HIGHLY recommend Homage to Catalonia by Orwell.

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Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:17 pm

Ebbingford wrote:I can recommend Beevor's "The Battle for Spain".



I just ordered it at my local library. They even have a Dutch translation.

So I will be ready when this game is released :thumbsup:

http://mom.biblion.nl/olifant/olifant.dll?doctype=AI&bibliotheek=bngroningen&style=0&ppn=296164593&isbn=9041410880

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Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:07 am

+1 for Beevor's Battle for Spain - next to me as I write this (in Palau Saverdera, Catalonia) - was actually first published in 1982 before his better known Stalingrad - but was revised and re-issued in 2006.

I also just noticed Beevor's wife is Artemis Cooper - author of a recent biography of Patrick Leigh Fermor - he who wandered across Europe in 1933 and later, during the war captured the German commander in Crete - and settled in the Mani peninsula - and wrote several books - most of which are worth reading.

+1 for homage to Catalonia too.

Hearts of Iron 2 & 3 have scenarios for the SCW for those of you who perhaps have those games.

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Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:47 pm

Just got Beevor's Battle for Spain from Amazon today and it looks like an amazing book :w00t:
A word of warning DON'T buy The Spanish Civil War (released in 1982) from the same author as Battle for Spain (released in 2006) is a revised edition with new information from the Russian archives!
Corrected the link to the right book in the first post!

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Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:18 pm

Taillebois wrote:+1 for Beevor's Battle for Spain - next to me as I write this (in Palau Saverdera, Catalonia) - was actually first published in 1982 before his better known Stalingrad - but was revised and re-issued in 2006.

I also just noticed Beevor's wife is Artemis Cooper - author of a recent biography of Patrick Leigh Fermor - he who wandered across Europe in 1933 and later, during the war captured the German commander in Crete - and settled in the Mani peninsula - and wrote several books - most of which are worth reading.

+1 for homage to Catalonia too.

Hearts of Iron 2 & 3 have scenarios for the SCW for those of you who perhaps have those games.


and a dozen of scenarios in Steelpanthers WinspWW2 too.

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:52 pm

The Spanish Civil War and Spanish Holocaust, both by Paul Preston, are fantastic books on this subject.
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:27 pm

I see the movie list and i think is a sacrilege dont see "La Vaquilla"...

"Teníamos que haber traído al disecador! "

"We should have brought to the taxidermist!" :thumbsup:

There is a best phrase, an epic one :mdr:

"¡Cuidado mi teniente, cuidado conmigo, eh! Hemos corrido un encierro, nos hemos tragado una misa, hemos llevado una virgen, hemos cargado con un marqués, usted ha afeitado a un fascista, a mí me han pegado una cornada, éste... ¡se ha cagao!, a éste... lo han vestido de sacristán y a éste le han puesto los cuernos... y todo por la jodida vaca ¡Qué le den mucho por el saco a la vaca! Yo me voy a comer (Brigada Castro)"

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:31 pm

Ironclad61 wrote:I see the movie list and i think is a sacrilege dont see "La Vaquilla"...

"Teníamos que haber traído al disecador! "

"We should have brought to the taxidermist!" :thumbsup:

There is a best phrase, an epic one :mdr:

"¡Cuidado mi teniente, cuidado conmigo, eh! Hemos corrido un encierro, nos hemos tragado una misa, hemos llevado una virgen, hemos cargado con un marqués, usted ha afeitado a un fascista, a mí me han pegado una cornada, éste... ¡se ha cagao!, a éste... lo han vestido de sacristán y a éste le han puesto los cuernos... y todo por la jodida vaca ¡Qué le den mucho por el saco a la vaca! Yo me voy a comer (Brigada Castro)"


hehehe a very funny film indeed, but I'm afraid it's almost totally unknown outside Spain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_vaquilla

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:37 pm

Yep... but it has real T-26!!! another good scen with the soviet tankmen... they dont speak spanish they dont speak rusian but who care with the international sign Language :coeurs:

[video=youtube;mZOqrXgRMxY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZOqrXgRMxY[/video]

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:11 pm

Ironclad61 wrote:I see the movie list and i think is a sacrilege dont see "La Vaquilla"...


Very interesting. Is there a version with English subtitles? Amazon only has the Spanish version without any subs.


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Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:48 am

Thank you OP. The trailer of Land and Freedom seems very good. My prior movie exposure on SCW was only Pan's labyrinth, and that was a very biased film.

I find it amazing that the AGE engine could work for SCW, what other conflicts can it model? Chinese civil war 1924-1950?

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Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:56 pm

Time for an update.
What's new:
- added youtube links to all six parts of Granada TV Spanish Civil War documentary. A MUST SEE!
- added two new trailers for movies

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Tue May 20, 2014 9:57 pm

This game has revived my interest in the SCW. I've always had an interest in the subject, but I see that it is a fascinating subject. I'm very interested in movies on the topic.

I would also be very interested in knowing whether there's any kind of period drama series set during the SCW.

Currently reading the Hugh Thomas book, and watching the BBC documentary which I see is also listed here.

It would be great if this title gets more scenarios and continues to grow!

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Tue May 20, 2014 10:03 pm

I mean the Granada series :bonk:

I also found a youtube link to The Siege of the Alcazar film.

Unfortunately I found it through this ridiculous skinhead white supremacist site, but since its on youtube nobody has to go through there thankfully.

I've also located english subtitles. I thought from the Wikipedia page that it looked like a very interesting flick, it was filmed during the SCW I believe or immediately following the war. It is an Italian film and apparently won a bunch of awards in Fascist Italy.

So even though it's certainly going to be horrendously biased it's still an interesting piece of film history and a (very slanted) view into the time period.

I can post the links if anyone is interested I haven't watched it yet only just found it.

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Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:09 am

There is also an excellent series of 3 comic books called No Pasarán by Vittorio Giardino (NBM Publishing, 2000-2008). The comic is reminiscent of Orwell's take because it focuses on Republican infighting (in this case during the Ebro Offensive).

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Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:11 am

Felix Morrow "Revolution and Counter-revolution in Spain"

https://www.marxists.org/archive/morrow ... /index.htm

Other stuff by Morrow here including more writings about Spain . . .

https://www.marxists.org/archive/morrow-felix/index.htm

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Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:25 am

A new ten-minute introduction to the war: Feature History - Spanish Civil War

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