General Player to Player Comments

[bjfagan]

Early May 1884

[Jim-NC]

I take it that no one has a copy of the contentment increase script. I'll have to do more research on the forums then.

[Sir Garnet]

I have cut and pasted many scripts to save them for reference over the years, but they are usually drafts or flawed in some way (which may not be discovered until after the fact), making reliance on them worse than having to start from scratch. It is a challenge to solicit complete, tested, sound scripts with good descriptions - enough to make a template. Sad to say, I find that I don't retain the details of the scripting language very long past a specific project, and I've been flummoxed by problems with aspects of the peace treaty script I have worked on several times.

So I don't have a contentment script template though I recall discussion of it several times in CIE and in the PON forums. I would welcome seeing a sound and verified one posted in the script repository.

[bjfagan]

Late May 1884

[Citizen X]

Please run this scriptto give Colombia back their woolfarms.

[bjfagan]

Please run this scriptto give Colombia back their woolfarms.

I think you need to use up some diplomats.

[Citizen X]

I think you need to use up some diplomats.

I can, allthough this is just to repair the result of some undocumented feature of the programm.

[bjfagan]

I can, allthough this is just to repair the result of some undocumented feature of the programm.

Are the relations between Columbia and the OE higher than 25?

[Citizen X]

Are the relations between Columbia and the OE higher than 25?

No. It is below. However, it is still positive and no crisis occurred. Thus the chance of a production site changing ownership should be zero.

[bjfagan]

No. It is below. However, it is still positive and no crisis occurred. Thus the chance of a production site changing ownership should be zero.

I am pretty sure that if your relations are under a positive 25, then there is a chance the structure can be seized. If this is the case, then diplomats would be required for negotiating the return of them since it is not a game engine malfunction.


Early June 1884

[Citizen X]

I am pretty sure that if your relations are under a positive 25, then there is a chance the structure can be seized. If this is the case, then diplomats would be required for negotiating the return of them since it is not a game engine malfunction.


Early June 1884

Manual:

The chance of loss of the
investment to the locals corresponds to the extent to which your relations fall below 0. ... You can also lose
the investment as one result of a Crisis, which can occur with non-Friendly countries (those with relations of 24 or
less).

Now I don't know what "Crisis" means in this case but there was no sign of something unusual happening.

In the
game, a Crisis is only possible between countries with less than Friendly (25+) relations, although this Crisis limit
and other Crisis factors may be modified through the game files.
If the situation degenerates, you’ll be presented with a special message in your Message Log which will be in
red and one of the first, if not the first, of all your entries, informing you that you are involved in a Crisis!

Thus my belief that this not WAD. I altered the script nonetheless and will meanwhile ask what the designers say about it.

[bjfagan]

Maybe one of the other players can jump in here, but going back a long way and on the other forum too, we operated under the rule/assumption that relations had to be over +25 to avoid having structures seized.

[Citizen X]

I take it that no one has a copy of the contentment increase script. I'll have to do more research on the forums then.

I asked Philthib about the matter and he pointed me to there:

check GBR events. e.g. evt_nam_GBR_OverendCollapsed1866

Also got to Wiki to get script data. For instance: http://www.ageod.net/agewiki/ChgPopContentEx

[Sir Garnet]

Maybe one of the other players can jump in here, but going back a long way and on the other forum too, we operated under the rule/assumption that relations had to be over +25 to avoid having structures seized.

Yes. The manual is an effort to describe what we discover by experience and experimentation about an evolving and complex game with many changes that can have side effects. I have been working on a manual revision for v1.3 for release at some point (in the face of reports, quite uncertain about what is what on quite a few points).

When structures revert has provided some surprises. FYI, the current notes for addition on this topic, following the language quoted, is

"You can also lose the investment if a Unit at war with you moves into the region and captures the region and structure (if retaken, it reverts to the owner of the region – not the foreign investor). The owner of the region if at war with you may be able to capture it immediately by moving in troops, or even without military occupation it may revert to the host country if your relations are below 25. [It is desirable to have troops of the host country in the same region to avoid local disturbances if relations are 25 or less.][To be checked]"

[Sir Garnet]

In current news, Brazilian papers report finished building of a much worse than useless Railroad in Barcelos at day 12. Barcelos is in the brown terra incognita north of Manaus with a population of zero. It would be amusing if not for the coal cost involved in running RRs. Someone has lined his pockets and the people will demand he go to jail!


France and Austria and others unresponsive to State Visit requests.

[bjfagan]

Late June 1884

[bjfagan]

Early July 1884

[Jim-NC]

I have determined how to implement the minor contentment fix. I will be posting later (as the end of July turn is where everything resets, and I need to see what is happening at the moment so I can fix for December so we can be ready for Late January population change). I will be posting during the next week or so, so the host can process before the end of December turn.

[bjfagan]

Late July 1884... Hey the Austrians have returned!!

[bjfagan]

Early August 1884

[lukasberger]

Late July 1884... Hey the Austrians have returned!!

Yeah Been so crazy busy lately I took a couple weeks off. Hopefully I'll be more steady now, though I probably won't do a turn every day.

[Jim-NC]

I am adding a script to the repository for minor contentment improvement. If it can be added by the host next turn. It has to fire before the late December turn to change what happens in late January (contentment levels trigger strikes etc.).

[bjfagan]

Late August 1884... with the contentment script.

[Citizen X]

I have altered the Colombian wool sites script.
I think now that the interference of rebel armies caused the defection of mines and ranches between Colombia and Turkey, btw.

Please also run the Ottoman diplo-script.

[bjfagan]

Early September 1884... with the two scripts.

[bjfagan]

Late September 1884

[bjfagan]

Early October 1884

[bjfagan]

Late October 1884

[Lindi]

Sorry but I stop the game. No fun and also is not My France.

that is my last try so I am very happy to try that and good continuation for all other player +++.

[bjfagan]

Sorry I could not process the turn today, I was busy. I will do it now, but will not process it again until Thursday.

Early November 1884