nizoral
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Not moving to next turn

Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:12 pm

Hi I am stuck in a Prussian game, once I press the next turn button the game takes you to the main menu and saves the game. This happened to me in June 1862, I loaded a previous game and now I get stuck at March 1862 with the same thing happening.

june62.rar
(842 KiB) Downloaded 178 times
june62.rar
(842 KiB) Downloaded 178 times
these are the saves.

Thank you.
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march62.rar
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Pocus
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:14 pm

The HST file (which is used by the game to process the turn) weights 0 byte, so basically is empty. This might happen if an anti virus prevent writing of files (same for Steam when it updates, sometime it fails because of that).
Try to back up until you find a working turn. Also check if you can tell your AV to not do that, by whitelisting the game and its directories for example.
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nizoral
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:59 pm

Thanks, now it seems to move on. I have blacked the PoN folder for the anti virus to check.

harrybanana
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Tue May 21, 2013 9:24 pm

I am having the same problem as nizoral. I am playing Austria in a Grand Campaign but I get to a certain point in the game and when I click to process the turn it just goes to the Main Menu. I have disabled my Anti-virus program and reloaded from a previous turn. Buy it continues to get hung up.

My Main is file is huge, but reprinted below is the last portion of it:

12:51:40 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 228
12:51:40 PM [Error ] THost.LoadHostFile Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\Victory\Victory.hst". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
12:51:40 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing LoadHostFile
12:51:40 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing PreHostProcess
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) TGameSim.OnLoadGame_FilePicked C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\AustriaGC\AustriaGC~AUS.trn :Turn file loaded, # of entries: 430451
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) 1850 - Grand Campaign 1859, Early May (T: 2625) loaded
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 13233 ms
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 224
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) 1850 - Grand Campaign 1859, Early May (T: 2625) loaded
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 16509 ms
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host: Starting AIs.
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host: AI files done. 83614 ms
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Host file loaded, # of entries: 904270
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Starting hosting of turn 2625 - 1859, Early May
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 0
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 1
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 2
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 3
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 4
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 5
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 6
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 7
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 8
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 9
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 10
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 11
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 12
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 13
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 14
12:56:02 PM DoUnitsSpawningFromAbi 0.0 µs
12:56:02 PM Check Research 2799173.0 µs
12:56:02 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 120 Gaining Faction: Holstein
12:56:02 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 130 Gaining Faction: Bavaria
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) 1850 - Grand Campaign 1859, Early May (T: 2625) loaded
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 13515 ms
12:56:02 PM (Reporting) Ended Hosting Phase 183289 ms
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 225
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.LoadHostFile Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\AustriaGC\AustriaGC.hst". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing LoadHostFile
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing PreHostProcess
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) TGameSim.OnLoadGame_FilePicked C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\AustriaGC\AustriaGC~AUS.trn :Turn file loaded, # of entries: 431689
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) 1850 - Grand Campaign 1859, Early May (T: 2625) loaded
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 13498 ms
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 225
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.LoadHostFile Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\AustriaGC\AustriaGC.hst". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing LoadHostFile
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing PreHostProcess
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) TGameSim.OnLoadGame_FilePicked C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\AustriaGC\AustriaGC~AUS.trn :Turn file loaded, # of entries: 430451
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) 1850 - Grand Campaign 1859, Early May (T: 2625) loaded
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 13328 ms
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 224
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.LoadHostFile Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\AustriaGC\AustriaGC.hst". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing LoadHostFile
1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing PreHostProcess
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) TGameSim.OnLoadGame_FilePicked C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\May 1859\May 1859~AUS.trn :Turn file loaded, # of entries: 430451
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) 1850 - Grand Campaign 1859, Early May (T: 2625) loaded
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 13352 ms
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 224
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) 1850 - Grand Campaign 1859, Early May (T: 2625) loaded
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 16388 ms
1:00:24 PM (Reporting) Host: Starting AIs.
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host: AI files done. 84395 ms
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Host file loaded, # of entries: 904270
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) THost.ProcessTurn Starting hosting of turn 2625 - 1859, Early May
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 0
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 1
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 2
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 3
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 4
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 5
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 6
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 7
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 8
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 9
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 10
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 11
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 12
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 13
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Host MakeStep 14
1:09:08 PM DoUnitsSpawningFromAbi 0.0 µs
1:09:08 PM Check Research 2844199.0 µs
1:09:08 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 120 Gaining Faction: Holstein
1:09:08 PM TRegionCmns.OnCaptureSupply No exclusive structure owner or owner is not an enemy in Region: 130 Gaining Faction: Bavaria
1:09:08 PM [Error ] THost.PostHostProcess Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\May 1859\May 1859~AUS.trn". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process DebugStep: 450
1:09:08 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 225
1:09:08 PM [Error ] THost.LoadHostFile Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\May 1859\May 1859.hst". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
1:09:08 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing LoadHostFile
1:09:08 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing PreHostProcess

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Wed May 22, 2013 8:28 am

1:00:24 PM [Error ] THost.LoadHostFile Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\Games\Pride of Nations\VGN\Saves\AustriaGC\AustriaGC.hst". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process

Probably because the HST file was denied permission of updating itself and weights now zero byte. Can you check that? If this is the case, please backdown one turn with the in-game menu.
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Wed May 22, 2013 5:00 pm

Pocus, you are correct that the HST file has 0 bytes. I backed up to a previous save and continued play. But this is happening frequently. At times I have to reload a previous save every couple turns, at other times I can play a year or two before the problem occurs again. But what I do know is that it is going to happen again and it is annoying. Like I said I am playing with my AV off so I don't think that is the problem. Is their a fix for this other than just backing up a turn every time it happens? If I uninstalled and reinstalled the game would that maybe fix it? Also, as you can see from my post above I am getting a lot of error messages.

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Thu May 23, 2013 10:44 am

If not from the AV, then it can be Windows' UAC. If you feel like doing it (if you play offline), then reduce UAC a notch or two. I'm a bad example, I disabled it completely, but that's me.
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Thu May 23, 2013 11:14 pm

harry bannana thats my conclusion after i also read your problem with the turn advance .i am reposting it here too because i believe all gamers who have issues like this should seek some (proper)attention to our problem other than "back up your save and rewind every few turns .i apologise for this.

i feel deeply disapointed for so many hours i ve invested to understand the rules to what it seemed be the most promising and deep strategy game i ve ever played (and i ve played a lot of those) its a shame gents .realy you cant have such bugs like this one to haunt your game after releasing it .because i insist that you cant posibly be taken seriusly when me and others alike are expected to solve issues like uac of windows conflicting so much (i ve never encountered such a critical issue with any other title crashing a whole campaign every few rounds) with your game where in my opinion you have the knowledge and resources to solve at designers level before release.because our time is precius.buying your games is a just vote for people with great ideas and potential in strategy games .but it seems you need to learn the most important principle .customer support means solution.and since i ve seen so many times this issue with the campaign turn stuck ,it means you are not having one .and thats sad.pocus keep up the hard work my friend.i dont say its your fault here.because it seems there is some kind of policy alowing this mess.

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Fri May 24, 2013 8:50 am

We will propose a PON patch, 1.04 public beta, with a way to tell the program that it has to use the user directory, not the current game directory, to save games. Hopefully this will help you get a stable game.
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Sat May 25, 2013 11:45 pm

I did uninstall and then reinstall the game and so far (about 75 turns) I have not had any problems with the game failing to advance the turn. not sure if this will work for everyone of course.

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Mon May 27, 2013 9:06 am

Glad to hear about that, thanks for the update. The patch is still going out anyway :)
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