"Next Turn" button takes me to main menu

[Asher413]

Hello,

I am in a GC with Russia, and when I hit "next turn", it takes me back to the menu, with an info box that is saved the .ORD file. When I hit resume game, it reloads the turn (with the loading screen), and when I hit "next turn", it does the same thing.

I have loaded two different backups of two previous turns (so three turns in total), and this continues. It started on the previous patch last night, and then I installed the new patch today and have the same issue. Any and all help is appreciated, as I was about 30% through the long grind!

[Jim-NC]

Is your .hst file empty (0 bytes)? Do you have the logs from the turn where it appears to crash? We will need a little more information to assist you.

[Asher413]

Is your .hst file empty (0 bytes)? Do you have the logs from the turn where it appears to crash? We will need a little more information to assist you.

The .hst was empty on the first turn that locked up, but not the two backup turns I loaded that also crash.

In between my first post and behavior, I started a new campaign (had to fill my fix), and run a few turns, and just returned to two backups ago of the crashing game. This time, instead of booting me to the main menu, a popup occurred saying the game crashed, and the game closed.

I'm not sure which logs you seek, these are in the Pride of Nations/VGN/Logs folder:

[ATTACH]22921[/ATTACH][ATTACH]22922[/ATTACH]

AI log and Host log would not upload.

[Pocus]

It seems to be the (now old) problem of a code on AI agent, which can only happen when you are continuing an old game. I can probably clear up your saved game for you if you really want to continue this old game, but for that I'll need the HST file, the TRN and ORD file of your nation.

[Asher413]

If you could clear it up, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for your assistance!

[ATTACH]22925[/ATTACH]

[Pocus]

Please try this edited turn

http://we.tl/HqiqMfL7qf

[Asher413]

Please try this edited turn

That worked! Thank you so much Pocus, both for your help today and a great set of games!

[vaalen]

It seems to be the (now old) problem of a code on AI agent, which can only happen when you are continuing an old game. I can probably clear up your saved game for you if you really want to continue this old game, but for that I'll need the HST file, the TRN and ORD file of your nation.

Pocus, I am having the same problem, the game drops to main menu when I end turn. At first, this happened occasionally, now it happens every time. But the thing is, I started the new game just a couple weeks ago, it is by no means old. What should I do?

[vaalen]

Pocus, I am having the same problem, the game drops to main menu when I end turn. At first, this happened occasionally, now it happens every time. But the thing is, I started the new game just a couple weeks ago, it is by no means old. What should I do?

I should note that this is a bit different, in that there is no info box saying is saved the .ord file.

[Pocus]

same symptom but different problem probably. Can you post the mainlog file when you get dropped to main menu?

[vaalen]

same symptom but different problem probably. Can you post the mainlog file when you get dropped to main menu?

Forgive my ignorance, but where would I find the mainlog file?

[Ebbingford]

In the Logs folder which is in the main VGN folder.

[vaalen]

In the Logs folder which is in the main VGN folder.

Thanks, Ebbingford, I will look for it.

[vaalen]

Last night, I tried ending turn four different times, after reloading three times, and the game dropped into the menu every time. That is why I reported it. Today, it worked fine after I ended the same turn, and five more turns. The bug seems to have disappeared. If it reappears, I will post the appropriate log file.

Very confusing, as nothing changed between last night and this morning, but I am not complaining.

Pocus, as always, I appreciate the wonderful support you give, and I thank you, Ebbingford, as well.

Best game company, best forum.

[HarryLee]

Having the same issue as described above. Playing GC as prussia in late jan of 53. I have a mainlog txt as well as host log txt

[HarryLee]

Fixed the issue. Go to your saved games file. The file path is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Pride of Nations\VGN\Save (assuming you use steam) then open the file with your current game as the title. I closed PON and deleted the hst ord and trn files. I then went into the backup 1 folder and took the four files there and loaded them up as a saved file in place of the deleted files. I was able to continue game play starting from the previous turn. So far no problems and I've passed the turn with which the issue started. i hope this helps anyone else out rather then having to rely on someone to rewrite the txt.

[Arakash]

Ive encountered this bug many many many times in my Japan playthrough (to 1875 so far, seeing it every few years at least).
The workaround listed by others above has worked every single time, so i do recommend it.

Edit: I just noticed that a similar thing to what i mentioned below was talked about in the patch notes, so nvm.

Just coincidentally when i just experienced this bug, i happened to be watching the messages/tips that appear during turn resolution. (usually i alt-tab and do something else)
Right before the end of turn resolution, i saw a message that may have been an error, telling me that the something else was accessing the file/preventing access (or something to that effect, i dont remember the exact words).

It sounded very much like the common problem you see in a wide variety of games that is the game not having permission to access certain resources.(ive run into it on a few betas) Just a guess on my part though.
I dont know if its a coincidence or just regular message behavior, but i hope it might make it easier to find the solution.

Just for the sake of clarity, i am running the game with administrator privileges and no windows error message appeared when the previous turn was resolving.

[jscott991]

I've just started having this problem. Try to play the turn and it drops to the main menu.

Here is my mainlog file:

10:48:33 PM (Reporting) User: Jeremy Computer: JEREMY-PC
10:48:33 PM (Reporting) Loading general settings
10:48:33 PM (Reporting) USettings.LoadSettings 799 settings loaded, out of 8 settings files.
10:48:33 PM (Reporting) Loading Localized Strings
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) System local strings loaded from C:\games\PoN\VGN\Settings\LocalStrings__AGE.csv
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) Loading Display Options
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) Entering DirectX Initializations
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) LocalStrings & Settings 6041 ms
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) Cursors 9 ms
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) Fonts 0 ms
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) TTerrainDefs.Create 114 Terrains definitions loaded, out of 57 terrains files.
10:48:39 PM (Reporting) Terrains Definitions 268 ms
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) Areas & Theaters 1372 ms
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) Particles I 0 ms
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TAbiDefs.Create 493 Abilities loaded, out of 493 abilities files.
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) Units Abilities 117 ms
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TStrucDefs.LoadFromFile 165 StrucDef loaded, out of 165 StrucDef files.
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) Structures 167 ms
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TFactionDefs.LoadFromFile 265 FactionDef loaded, out of 265 FactionDef files.
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) Factions 136 ms
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) Application.Initialize OK
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TSplash.Create OK
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TSplash.Show OK
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TSplash.Repaint OK
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) Starting Media Librarian
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TAgeAudio Initializing Audio Engine
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeSounds 241 sounds loaded.
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeMusics 143 Musics loaded.
10:48:41 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeVoices 5 Voice Languages loaded.
10:48:43 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: event-img_cmn_navalbattle1898 , ExImage ignored
10:48:43 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: event-img_cmn_navaldefeat1898 , ExImage ignored
10:48:43 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: event-img_cmn_spanishvictory1898 , ExImage ignored
10:48:43 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: factionpickhl_reb , ExImage ignored
10:48:44 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: ruler_csa_lg_alexanderstephens , ExImage ignored
10:48:44 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: ruler_csa_lg_jeffersondavis , ExImage ignored
10:48:44 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: unit_cmn_fortressbatteries , ExImage ignored
10:48:45 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Redundant ImageID: unit_cmn_diplomat , ExImage ignored
10:48:45 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Finished loading images in 3.089 seconds Memory usage: 60012 kb
10:48:45 PM (Reporting) Media Librarian 3984 ms
10:48:45 PM (Reporting) TParticlesDef.Create 4 particles definitions loaded, out of 4 particles files.
10:48:45 PM (Reporting) Particles II 2 ms
10:48:45 PM (Reporting) TDoodadDefs.Create 6 doodads definitions loaded, out of 6 files.
10:48:45 PM (Reporting) Doodads 3 ms
10:48:48 PM (Reporting) TListRegionDefs.Create 2869 Regions definitions loaded.
10:48:48 PM (Reporting) Regions & the Map 3399 ms
10:48:48 PM (Reporting) TListButtons.Create 70 buttons definitions loaded, from 29 frontend files.
10:48:48 PM (Reporting) Buttons 13 ms
10:48:49 PM (Reporting) TAgeDxComponentList.Create 32 frontend definitions loaded, from 32 frontend files.
10:48:49 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.GetMediaInfo: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: ledger_back
10:48:49 PM (Reporting) TFrontEnd.Create 29 frontend definitions loaded, from 73 frontend files.
10:48:49 PM (Reporting) Frontends Initializations 938 ms
10:48:49 PM (Reporting) Starting Game World
10:48:49 PM (Reporting) TMerchandises.LoadFromFile 54 Merchandises loaded, from 54 Merchandises files.
10:49:05 PM (Reporting) TModels.Create 11726 (Cached) Models loaded in 16058 ms
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TListUnitDefs.Create 10822 (Cached) Units loaded in 2291 ms
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TWeather.Create 21 Weathers patterns loaded, from 21 files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TEthnics.LoadFromFile 130 Ethnics loaded, from 130 Ethnics files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TReligions.LoadFromFile 13 Religions loaded, from 13 Religions files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TResearchDefs.LoadFromFile 416 Research loaded from 416 Research files, in 148 ms
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TDiplomacyDefList.LoadFromFile 83 Diplomatic Options loaded from 83 Diplomacy Definition files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TRulerDefList.LoadFromFile 1848 Rulers loaded from 1848 Ruler Definition files in 470 ms
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TAgendaDefs.LoadFromFile 37 AI Agendas loaded from 37 AI Agendas files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TMapAleaDefs.LoadFromFile 0 TMapAleaDef loaded, from 0 files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TAIAgentDefs.LoadFromFile 0 AIAgentDefs loaded, from 0 aia files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TFactionMods.LoadFromFile 472 Faction Modifiers loaded, from 472 files, in 72 ms
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TFacAttribDefs.LoadFromFile 45 Faction Atttributes loaded from 45 Attributes Definition files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TFacAttribsOverride.LoadFromFile 4 F.A. Overrides loaded from 4 Attributes Definition files.
10:49:08 PM (Reporting) TRgnDecisionDefs.LoadFromFile 54 Region Decisions loaded, from 54 Decisions files.
10:49:13 PM (Reporting) Game World & attached DBs 4884 ms
10:49:13 PM (Reporting) Starting Data Parser
10:49:13 PM (Reporting) Data Parser 1 ms
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) Max Texture size: 16384 x 16384
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) Starting Renderer
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) Rendering Engine 0 ms
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) Starting Game ...
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) Global Load Time: 41021 ms
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) TMain, CreateForm OK
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) Application.Run Starting app...
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) Game Engine version: PON 1.03e full
10:46:18 PM (Reporting) TGameSim.OnLoadGame_FilePicked C:\games\PoN\VGN\Saves\war\war~FRA.trn :Turn file loaded, # of entries: 865591
10:50:40 PM (Reporting) All gamesim data loaded in: 29934 ms
10:50:40 PM (Reporting) TSlaveThing.SetBitmap: Unable to find MediaInfo for image: GrpInd_RailMove.png
10:50:40 PM (Reporting) Starting Hosting Phase Turn 265
10:50:40 PM [Error ] THost.LoadHostFile Exception caught: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier "C:\games\PoN\VGN\Saves\war\war.hst". The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process
10:50:40 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing LoadHostFile
10:50:40 PM [Error ] THost.AbortProcess Hosting aborted while performing PreHostProcess

[jscott991]

My .hst file is 0 bytes and empty, so the problem seems to be that file fails to generate.

That explains why the workaround of loading a new turn (with a .hst file that isn't empty) works.

But what causes the empty file?

[Jim-NC]

The game does that from time to time. I am not sure why. You should be able to load the previous turn (look in your backup1 folder, and get the .hst that is not 0 bytes).

[jscott991]

Yes, i was able to continue from the previous turn without any trouble. But given how long each turn takes, it's frustrating to lose one.