Ptolemaic or "Pharaonic" Egypt?

[wijse]

Are we going to see a Hellenistic egypt? with mercenary greek phalangites and peltasts and native nubian, egyptian and libyan auxiliary?



I ask because a lot of screenshots show egyptian generic leader pictures of a classic pharaoh.

[Narwhal]

Egypt is hellenestic with Elephants

[wijse]

Egypt is hellenestic with Elephants

Whats with the pharaoh picture then? and are we going to see nubian, egyptian and libyan auxiliaries?

[Narwhal]

Quickly enough, the Ptolemeic dynastic used "classic" Egyptian iconography for obvious reason.

Ptolémée VI :



Ptolémée XI



Same picture, two kings - you can't trust the Internet


There are all sort of auxiliaries, of all nationalities, but Egyptian auxiliaries are still hellenistic.

[Boomer]

I think this is an issue that goes way back. Even as far back as 2004, the first Rome Total War game had 'Egyptian' leaders, and fans made such a stink about it that almost all future mods had Hellenistic Greek rulers instead. It's a flip of the coin really. Historically the Ptolemy dynasty took on the trappings and titles of the Pharaohs, even if their bloodline, language, and culture was still entirely Greek.

As far as the units go, it looks like a little of both will be included.

[Sir Garnet]

Usurpers frequently take on as many of the trappings of legitimacy of the prior regime as possible - Alexander himself affected customs of the Persian King of Kings.

Rome Total War's Egyptian army was anachronistic for the period of the game - that aside, it was a fun oddity to fight against.

[PANGI]

The story behind this is this:

I need to make generic egyptian ruler pic and dont know which symbols ptolemaic kings used - presumed that they still used ancient pharaoh's crown. which was confirmed for me by the coin narwahl posted. but if its ahistorical we can still change it.

edit: now i found that they maybe used a crown with sun rays as seleucid:

[BodyBag]

The story behind this is this:

I need to make generic egyptian ruler pic and dont know which symbols ptolemaic kings used - presumed that they still used ancient pharaoh's crown. which was confirmed for me by the coin narwahl posted. but if its ahistorical we can still change it.

edit: now i found that they maybe used a crown with sun rays as seleucid:


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Hi

Are you still right now working on the game up till release the 19th?

Is that why we all have to walk around in circles for 4 more days... damn you :-)

[PANGI]

I'm not sure if its becouse of me But yes, im still working on AJE. But i think i will make more for the game in near future anyway...

[yellow ribbon]

The story behind this is this:

I need to make generic egyptian ruler pic and dont know which symbols ptolemaic kings used - presumed that they still used ancient pharaoh's crown. which was confirmed for me by the coin narwahl posted. but if its ahistorical we can still change it.

edit: now i found that they maybe used a crown with sun rays as seleucid:

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not really a-historical, as there is a problem what you want to depict. 250 years the Ptol. didnt change the temples art/clerical use of icons. i searched around in the digitalized library last evening, for the same time you find a large quantity of images on coins and sculptures which would be clearly "Greek" / hard to distinct from greeks...

but the thread really calls out for being put into the historical discussions thread and some market research for a sprite pack in few months ^^

[Florent]

Pangi, it seems that the Crown 1 are Angus Mc Bride Art. Is this the Montvert Publication about Seleucids ? It doesn't seem to be Osprey ?

[Florent]

Cleopatra here in a greek hair cut.

[PANGI]

Pangi, it seems that the Crown 1 are Angus Mc Bride Art. Is this the Montvert Publication about Seleucids ? It doesn't seem to be Osprey ?

Yeah. From Montvert "Seleucid and Ptolemaic reformed armies" with McBride's illustrations (love his work)