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Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:11 pm

Icon for Rubles is Dollar one ($). Maybe it should be swaped for uncommon Roubles??:
'Py6' symbol, is near cyrillic fonts, trying to copy official.
I made a try (nothing is to be DL here) with:
Tahoma, Bold, 8 (6 should be fine, and back transparency is missing).
These are the 3 png mb_assetbtn_oxx0 files in \RUS\Graphics\FrontEnd\Top Left Panel\Assets
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Or maybe just a 'Rub' symbol?, without trying to copy cyrillic.
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Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:30 pm

Not sure if that would improve the game. The dollar sign is universally recognized as a sign for money, whereas the ruble sign is not as widely known. If the first is replaced by the second, those who just started learning about the game may have trouble finding where is their amount of money shown on hand shown.
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Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:32 pm

Orel wrote:Not sure if that would improve the game. The dollar sign is universally recognized as a sign for money

Yes. The better, for both recognition and russian, may be a drawing of some bills.
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What's the svastika on this (soviet??) ruble bill?
Edit: This bill should be an Imperial Russia last year issue for occupied Finland, not a Soviet bill.
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Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:02 pm

ERISS wrote:Yes. The better, for both recognition and russian, may be a drawing of some bills.
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What's the svastika on this (soviet??) ruble bill?


I heard about these. I believe this is an example of the currency the Communists issued in 1918.
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Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:26 pm

Above bill was an Imperial in the end, so the bill should be better this kind:
EDIT: I removed the bill, as this old picture is said property.
It won't be easy to make it fit as a comprehensible money icon.

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Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:55 am

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Not nice enough, the bill should be black(?), a little smaller, with high contrast.. (I may do it, later)
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Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:02 am

exactly what I was thinking ERISS... A few more ... I like the Py6 also... :)

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Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:30 pm

jack54 wrote:.. I like the Py6 also..

. I think it's better to try with the 'grey' background, on the white the difference is easy.
. Italic is a good idea to make it more russian,
but true cyrillic should be possible for a final version (if Py6 is kept).
. The dollar is not easily placed, if kept: $ Py6 $ ?
. On a bill, fonts should be smaller and not bolded
. I prefer your nb 1.
. The original picture of this old bill is said property(!?) (I removed the original picture for I had not ask), so we must not be shy about duffing, if necessary, the bill icon.
. I can't try these at now (I'm not at home)

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Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:14 pm

I think I like what you have here ($ Py6 $) the best!... the bill pixelates quite a bit anyway.

LOL, I ran into a possible copyright issue on a nice 'Spatacus' mod I was working on for AJE. I just abandoned it. sigh!
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Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:09 pm

jack54 wrote:$ Py6 $ is the best!...

If we keep the $, then the best is the most simple: the vanilia game icon!.: mod not needed.
Without $ (at first it was my goal), I wanted to try your nb 1, but with:
. a smaller bill (let 2 pixels free on top, and 1 free on botom; the others icon don't take all the place),
. not bolded, and smaller, true cyrillic fonts
but I even didn't succeed in making the bill as beautiful as yours (and didn't find cyrillic in Gimp).
I think this red/tan/foxed style of color is the best for the Ruble Soviet bill.
I tried with black&white one, but the Py6 is no longer lisible on.

... Maybe the devs already said and tried all that...

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Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:36 am

New try:
[ATTACH]21849[/ATTACH]
In good way, I feel.
I almost made what said in past post, but I kept the bold, and 'true cyrillic' is not needed for it's rather the same (and exactly at this scale).
If you want to test the 3 files ingame:
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But, would it be good too for White players??.. what money did the White mainly used?
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Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:51 pm

Here's another try... Ruble symbol with 'generic stack of money'.... I hate to lose the 'actual' Ruble image but I think this fits with the other black icons...


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Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:03 pm

jack54 wrote:Ruble symbol with 'generic stack of money'.

If you find a good stack, Pyb is no longer needed (that's why I had put a barely readable one). But your stack rather seem a cake lol (mille-feuille/napoleon)
I find black&white version of mine is maybe more fitting than my previous tan(orange?) one, but less nice:
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:02 pm

ERISS wrote:your stack rather seem a cake lol



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I like your light black & white version very much... I would use that one :)
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Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:51 pm

jack54 wrote:I like your light black & white version very much... I would use that one :)

Thank you. But not me lol. Maybe the bill is too realistic beside the other icons. I think again a higher contrast is needed.
I'll try to make it better this week-end.

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:54 am

Closer to what I feel good (however the past one may be prefered):
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An experienced artist should immediatly find how to do it right. Maybe some shadow is missing.
I cheated: the center where Py6 is (some pixels arround), is exactly the same than before, as I think the Py6 is right.
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We're surely wrong with the black: it should be some dark brown. It is to be tried by picking the color on other symbol.
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Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:43 pm

Jack, could you link your colored bill icon file from your post #7 (I can't make it as neat than yours, maybe for yours is few pixels bigger). I want to try with, putting my small Py6 on, and too a light shadow/border arround (or on, as there seem no pixel free) your bill. Or you can do it, I won't be jealous ;)

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Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:52 am

ERISS wrote:Jack, could you link your colored bill icon file from your post #7 (I can't make it as neat than yours, maybe for yours is few pixels bigger). I want to try with, putting my small Py6 on, and too a light shadow/border arround (or on, as there seem no pixel free) your bill. Or you can do it, I won't be jealous ;)


Here is what I have :)

RUS Ruble sm.png
RUS Ruble sm.png (2 KiB) Viewed 1918 times



And a thought... perhaps the colored Ruble would not seem out of place if other icons had some color. Example of conscripts below:


RUS Ruble sm.png
RUS Ruble sm.png (2 KiB) Viewed 1918 times


the men are from the 'units' folder then sized down to 25%.
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:02 am

jack54 wrote:Here is what I have :)

Thank you. I'll work on the bill soon.

the men are from the 'units' folder then sized down to 25%.
perhaps the colored Ruble would not seem out of place if other icons had some color.

Good idea! fitting with F9 colors: yellow lightning, green laurels, red medal, ... still black gun, khaki train?
From a $ we'll replace all the interface lol

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What's these lines??? It goes on the map, but under the Antonov flag:
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I took the F9 icons, down to 75%. I sized down your bill too, but I didn't succeed in making the border shadow. I forgot 'Py6', it is not necessary but should be nicer if well written.
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:01 pm

what is this small but bolded font you use here, this can be of interest to me... Please PM if possible.
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:11 pm

ERISS I think that interface is really Good.
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:43 pm

jack54 wrote:ERISS I think that interface is really Good.

Yeay, but not enough: gun and train should be colored too.
And it's braking the game, as lines appear corrupting the interface.
I may see about this in some times, I had IRL heavy duty.

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Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:49 am

Corrupting lines are gone.
Some shadow is missing arround the bill
Gun should be: brown wheel, dark metal for gun, other things light wood
Armored train should be light khaki
I didn't succeed yet

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All this is improved in Gold beta (by whom?).

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