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Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:12 pm

I thought I would start a new thread dedicated to increasing the number of leader graphic sets in RUS.

There are still far to many generic portraits in the game. Let's change that!

This original appeal was the starting point for this mod. However, it would have remained a small project if I hadn't been joined in my effort by two other fans of RUS:
- Jack54 who does a fantastic job creating new graphic sets.
- Aeontal who has supplied Jack and myself with huge amounts of historical portraits.
Together we have created a graphics mod which should highly improve immersion into the Russian Civil war by giving a face to ~ 150 generals. :)


[SIZE="4"]As of RUS version 1.03a all graphic sets in this mod have become part of the official version of the game. This mod has therefore become obsolete. I won't update it any further.[/size]


Thanks SEPRUS for honouring Jack and myself with adopting our work. We truely appreciate it. :coeurs:


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Installation:

See readme file


Download link:

See end of this post.



Version History:


Version 1.0 and Version 1.1.

- POL: Zheligovsky
- RED: E. Haapalainen
- RED: K. Manner
- RED: G. K. Zhukov
- BAL: E. Podder
- POL: J. Haller
- RED: Ghai-Khan
- RED: A. Taimi


Version 1.2.

- CAU: Mekhmandarov
- DON: Fostikov
- DON: K. Popov
- DON: V.I. Sidorin
- RED: Gronroos
- RED: G. Petrov
- RED: N.A. Schors
- RED: V. Stefanov
- RED: Vsevolod
- RED: D.P. Zhloba
- WHI: K.V. Sakharov
- WHI: P.E. Tillo
- WH3 (= Siberian White): V.V. Glolitsyn
- WH3: V. Gulidov
- CZE: Y. Syrovy has gotten a new portrait; the one in use represents Štefánik.


Version 1.3.

- BAL: K. Berkis
- DON: A.I. Babkin
- FRA: E.E. Pruneau
- GBR: A. Knox
- JAP: H. Matsuura
- WHI: Cherbachev
- WHI: A.A. Borovsky
- WHI: M.P. Sablin
- WH3: G.A. Verzhbitsky
- WH3: I.V. Savitsky
- WH4 (= North-Western Whites): A.P. Lieven


Version 1.4.

Only a few new graphic sets this time. I have been very busy working on old portraits to get them into a form the original RUS artist can use. You can see the result in patch 1.01 for yourself as it contains a lot of beautiful new graphic sets made by Gilles Pfeifer (with a little help from me :) ).

Here is what's new in V. 1.4.:
- DON: A.P. Fitskhelaurov
- POL: S. Skrzynski
- WH5 (= Northern White): G.E. Elvengren
- WHI: N. de Bode

Most importantly, I have removed a lot of graphic sets of which now official versions exist:
- G.K. Zhukov
- Ghai Khan
- K. Manner
- M. Svechnikov
- V. Stepanov
- K.V. Sakharov
- Cherbachev
- A.A. Borovsky
- M.P. Sablin
- V.I. Sidorin
- A.I. Babkin
- E. Podder
- H. Matsuura
- G. Petrov
- Gronroos
- N.A. Schors
- Vsevolod
- D.P. Zhloba
- P.E. Tillo


Version 1.4a.

I wanted to release a smaller update before Christmas and New Year. It focuses exclusively on Ukrainian and Polish commanders. By now there is only one Ukrainian commander left who uses the generic graphis set. :) This should improve immersion for the Drang scenario a little bit.

New leader graphic sets in 1.4 and 1.4a:

- POL: W. Iwaszkiewicz
- POL: K. Raszewski
- UKR: P. Bolbochan
- UKR: A. Wolf
- UKR: A. Grekov
- UKR: V. Oskilko


Version 1.5.

Jack54 has kindly given me permission to include his amazing new graphic sets into this mod. Judge for yourself, but I for one believe that he has created some of the most beautiful leader graphics in RUS. Most of the 21 new graphic sets in version 1.5. were created by him.

- RED: Avksentevski
- RED: Avtonomov
- RED: Fedko
- RED: Gekker
- RED: Kork
- RED: Lazarev
- RED: Sapozhkov
- RED: Shorin
- RED: Sollogub
- RED: Sytin
- RED: Galler
- RED: Gikalo
- RED: Kikvidze
- RED: Kravchenko
- RED: Mironov
- RED: Samoylo
- WH3: Golovin
- WH3: Mikhailov
- WH3: Molchanov
- WH3: Ossipov
- WH3: Smolin


Version 1.6.

Again, a huge part of the work on this update has been done by Jack54. This mod wouldn't be growing at such a fast pace without his help. Version 1.6. adds 19 new leader graphic sets (11 by Jack, 8 by me).

A picture of the new graphic sets can be found in post # 81 of this thread.

- RED: Salmela
- RED: Yumashev
- WHI: Vitkovsky
- WHI: Timanovsky
- WHI: Toporkov
- WHI: Chekatovsky
- WHI: Lukomsky
- WHI: Abramov
- WHI: Kazanovich
- WHI: Romanovsky
- POL: Jung (Jack54's very first graphic set which I forgot to include in version 1.5)
- WH4: Gueorg
- WH4: von Neff
- WH4: Arseniev (the original had a really low resolution and it unfortunately shows)
- BAL: Puskar
- BAL: Zemitans
- WH5: Marushevsky
- WH5: Murusi (another portrait that had an extremely low resolution)
- WH3: Juna-Id-Khan (I had to paint half the turban by hand in order to get a usable Army.png)


Version 1.7.

This mod is continuing to grow rapidly. We are proud to post 24 new graphic sets, getting us to a total of 93. Three factions have received major improvements: Bolshevics, Don Cossacks and Sibirian Whites. Jack has outdone himself once more and has come up with new 14 graphic sets. I added another 11.

Pictures of the new graphic sets can be found in post #99 of this thread.

- RED: Sievers
- RED: Sablin
- RED: Iskritsky
- RED: Lashevich
- RED: Parsky
- RED: Ieremeev
- RED: Baltisky
- RED: Nemits
- RED: Markin
- WHI: Uspensky
- DON: Alekseev
- DON: Gulyga
- DON: Denisov
- DON: Bykadorov
- RED: Muraviev
- RED: Altfater
- DON: Bogatyrev
- WH3: Kosmin
- WH3: Martynov
- WH3: Akutin
- WH3: Khanzhin
- WH3: Ellerts-Ussov
- WH3: Matkovsky
- WH3: Grichin-Almazov
- WH3: Lokhvitsky

Jack's graphic set for F.F. Abramov has been attached to the DON leader (previously it had only been used for the WHI version of that leader).

Moreover, Jack went over the older mdl files and updated them to patch 1.01b. There were some minor changes made by the developpers which don't seem to have any in game effect as far as leaders are concerned. But better to be safe than sorry.


Version 1.8.

This time around the credit goes almost entirely to Jack. He came up with another 14 new graphic sets, I added 6 which brings us to an even 20. By now this mod contains a total of 113 new graphic sets.
Also I checked the latest patch and can confirm that this mod is compatible with patch 1.02a.

Pictures of the new graphic sets can be found in post #107 of this thread.

- RED: Nadiozhny
- RED: Grittis
- RED: Makhin
- RED: Chervanin
- RED: Kniaginsky
- RED: Hasu
- RED: Timoshenko
- RED: Kutiakov
- RED: Stogov
- WHI: Promtov
- WHI: Yuzefovich
- WHI: Gubin
- WHI: Cherepov
- WHI: Vinogradov
- WH2: Liupov
- WH2: Boldyrev
- WH3: Sladkov
- WH3: Onchokov
- WH3: Tolstov
- GRE: Nither


Version 1.9.

Jack and I managed to create another 21 new graphic sets bringing us to a total of 134 leader graphic sets. But we are quickly running out of historic portraits - in fact by now we are working with a lot of low quality photographies. This time around you will find a lot of new WHI and POL leaders:

Pictures of the new graphic sets can be found in post #108 of this thread.

- Ermakov
- Poliakov
- Khvesin
- Lechenko
- Piatakov
- Bredov
- Korvin-Krukovski
- Nezhentsev
- Pisarev
- Semiletov
- Ulagai
- Skobeltsyn (also fixed an issue making it impossible to promote him)
- Listowski (also fixed an issue making it impossible to promote him)
- Konarzewski
- Schubert
- Majewski
- Krajowski
- S. Haller
- Cholokashvili
- Artmeladze
- Jugheli


Version 2.0.

Adds a dozen new graphic sets:

- Kazansky
- Terpylo
- Tokmakov
- Bosch
- Karjalainen
- Slashev
- Ooy
- Suzuki
- Nishikawa
- Saito
- Nerel
- Madanin-Bek
- fixed mdl file for Sergeyev (existing graphic set was not used)
- changed G. V. Zinoviev to generic portrait. The SEPRUS team had him mistaken for G. E. Zinoviev, politburo member, head of Comintern and "dictator of Petrograd". Thanks Krot for finding this one!


Version 2.1.

As of beta patch 1.02b most of Jack's work has become part of the official patch line. This is what I hoped for from the very start: I always saw this mod as a gap-filler until the SEPRUS team either incorporated player made portraits or the original RUS artist Gilles Pfeifer had the time to make more graphic sets.

Version 2.1. of this mod removes all graphic sets that have become part of the official patches.


Enjoy!


The original thread with Jack54's work can be found here:
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?t=19887
I will however continue to incorporate his leader graphics in what is no our mod.


Note: If somebody finds a historic picture of a leader missing in this game. I will create the necessary game files. So go ahead and post what you find! To make things easier, barbu has kindly created a list of all generals in RUS still missing leader graphics (the latest update can be found in post # 83 of this thread).
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Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:14 pm

OneArmedMexican wrote:I thought I would start a new thread dedicated to increasing the number of leader graphic sets in RUS.

There are still far to many generic portraits in the game. Let's change that!

To start things off: Here is a portrait set of the young G. K. Zhukov:

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How to get this into the game?

1) copy the Unit_ ...png files in your RUS\Graphics\Units\Leaders Units folder

2) copy the Army_...png files in your RoP\Graphics\Armies&Fleets\Leaders Armies folder

3) Go into your RUS\GameData\Models folder. Open "934REDG.K. Zhukov.mdl". Search for "Unit_RED_Generic.png" replace it with "Unit_RED_Zhukov.png". Save.

4) Do the same with "1017REDG.K. Zhukov" and "1112REDG.K. Zhukov".

5) Delete the "Models.Cached" file in the same folder. Don't worry, the file will be recreated automatically with the updated information the next time RUS is launched.

Note: If somebody finds a historic picture of a leader missing in this game. I will create the necessary game files. So go ahead and post what you find!



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Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:18 pm

Thank you a lot! Keep them coming. :thumbsup:

Right now U am working on the Polish general Zeligowski; after that I will start on your red Finns. Should make the Finnsih civil was scenario a little bit flashier.
And gives me an added reason to try it out.

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Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:34 pm

I went through the Red MDL files one by one until I got upset and stopped :(
There are dozens of leaders with currently generic faces for whom I couldn't find any pictures... (Russians mostly, as you could tell).

Perhaps, as a stopgap solution, you could create several more generic faces, so we have more than one...

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Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:27 pm

barbu wrote:I went through the Red MDL files one by one until I got upset and stopped :(
There are dozens of leaders with currently generic faces for whom I couldn't find any pictures... (Russians mostly, as you could tell).

Perhaps, as a stopgap solution, you could create several more generic faces, so we have more than one...


I had pretty much the same experience.

Actually I have had a similar experience with RoP, but at least I speak the languages of most of the parties to that conflict.
RUS should be easier (age of photography and all), but since I don't speak Russian or any other Eastern European languages. I am limited in my research.

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Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:09 am

The worst were to try to find the pictures of the Japanese leaders in the conflict. For a long while we thought we had the picture of the proper general, to discover in the end it was the one of an admiral. :bonk:

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Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:12 pm

Cat Lord wrote:The worst were to try to find the pictures of the Japanese leaders in the conflict. For a long while we thought we had the picture of the proper general, to discover in the end it was the one of an admiral. :bonk:

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It is clear that a lot of work went into research. I am impressed. Which doesn't mean that it is impossible to find the missing historical portraits. ;) I will post the next batch soon.

Hopefully, some people will follow barbu's example and help. :coeurs:

It takes almost as much time researching leaders as it takes creating their portraits. :( That used to be different with ROP. The portraits where hand-drawn and it took a great amount of time to create new leader graphics.
With RUS, I got the impression you downgraded the quality of some historical pictures? :confused: To imitate its style, I usually have to go overboard with contrasts and use the red colour spectrum more than I like.

Although this should be self-evident by me posting in this forum. Cat Lord, you are of course free to use the new graphic sets in any way you choose to. If you want to follow the example of AGEOD and include them in future patches, it would be my pleasure. If not, well at least I had some fun. :)

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Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:57 pm

Is there a way to collate all the graphic and AI mods so far done into a 'pre-patch'? Thanks,
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:57 pm

1135WHIK.V. Sakharov.mdl and 1372WH3K.V. Sakharov.mdl:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Viktorovich_Sakharov

...

(a quarter of an hour later)

This is frustrating :(

Unless one of our Russian co-game-owners :) knows of a russian site with portraits for Civil War Generals (not just the famous ones)...

OneArmedMexican, I have a suggestion. Could you create 20 portraits? - I will find you some ahistorical sources - 10 for the reds, 10 for the whites - and I will do "the paperwork" of modifying current MDLs so that not every general without a portrait uses the *same* generic portrait. The end-result will be 11 generic red portraits instead of 1, so at least more variety, and 11 white portraits instead of 2.

This will be much softer on everybody's eyes, I think.

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Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:15 pm

Unfortunately I don't have time to find pictures at the moment, though I have thought of a way to help you looking for pictures on ru.net without speaking language. Maybe you have tried this?

Type leader name in wikipedia, if he has entry in English and no picture on left hand side go down and click on Русский under language, you might get lucky and have portrait on Russian Wikipedia, if not copy paste name in cyrillic and search. If this is not helpful or you already have done this PM me list of those you can't find and I will look on runet or in books I have. I can not do this until Sunday however.

Might be luck for leaders of all nationalities on runet as I think we have larger amount of data available in our language on this topic than in other ones.
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:28 pm

OneArmedMexican wrote:Although this should be self-evident by me posting in this forum. Cat Lord, you are of course free to use the new graphic sets in any way you choose to. If you want to follow the example of AGEOD and include them in future patches, it would be my pleasure. If not, well at least I had some fun. :)

Keep in mind that as per the forum rules, posting here carries with it an implicit approval for AGEOD to use what you post. :cthulhu:

That said, your volunteering the material for use is much appreciated, and I'm sure your fellow gamers will enjoy the adding of them to future patches :thumbsup:
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:53 pm

Rafiki wrote:Keep in mind that as per the forum rules, posting here carries with it an implicit approval for AGEOD to use what you post. :cthulhu:

That said, your volunteering the material for use is much appreciated, and I'm sure your fellow gamers will enjoy the adding of them to future patches :thumbsup:


Didn't know that, but I don't have a problem with it, either.

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barbu wrote:1135WHIK.V. Sakharov.mdl and 1372WH3K.V. Sakharov.mdl:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Viktorovich_Sakharov

...

(a quarter of an hour later)

This is frustrating :(

Unless one of our Russian co-game-owners :) knows of a russian site with portraits for Civil War Generals (not just the famous ones)...

OneArmedMexican, I have a suggestion. Could you create 20 portraits? - I will find you some ahistorical sources - 10 for the reds, 10 for the whites - and I will do "the paperwork" of modifying current MDLs so that not every general without a portrait uses the *same* generic portrait. The end-result will be 11 generic red portraits instead of 1, so at least more variety, and 11 white portraits instead of 2.

This will be much softer on everybody's eyes, I think.


I like the idea. However, manipulating all those model files would propably take more time than creating the portraits.

For now, I will try to continue to provide more historical portraits (I still have portraits of Bermont-Avalov, Puskar and of course the one you provided of Sakharov left). Furthermore, it seems the people doing the original research still have quite a lot of unused portraits in store. Hopefully, they will send them to me. That should be more than I can handle.

Thank you for your help, I really appriciate it. :thumbsup:

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Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:48 am

OneArmedMexican, thanks for mentioning me in the readme, however you're doing 99% of the work, and it's awesome work, btw.

Now, here is the list of MDLs / generals that have generic portraits even after portrait pack 1.2. I plan to remove names from this list as OneArmedMexican creates new portraits.

Note: If you see two filenames with "and" in between, it's the same person but two different MDL files, so there is 1 portrait to make but two files to reference it in. In some cases there are three filenames -> 1 portrait, 3 references.

For our Russian friends who want to help us :thumbsup: :the names of the people for whom there are no portraits should be clear from the list. There's a number, which doesn't matter, than the side on which the man was fighting (RED, WH1, WH2, etc) then his initials and then the name.
So, for 1002REDD.P. Parsky.mdl :

1002 - doesn't matter
RED - he was on the side of the Reds
D.P. Parsky - the name.

1002REDD.P. Parsky.mdl and 1080REDD.P. Parsky.mdl
930REDR.F. Sievers.mdl and 1003REDR.F. Sievers.mdl and 1033REDR.F. Sievers.mdl
1004REDK.S. Ieremeev.mdl and 1110REDK.S. Ieremeev.mdl
1005REDM.V. Smirnov.mdl and 1038REDM.V. Smirnov.mdl
1007REDSytin.mdl and 1111REDSytin.mdl
950REDI.L. Sorokin.mdl and 1010REDI.L. Sorokin.mdl
1013REDPiatakov.mdl and 1072REDPiatakov.mdl picture found, portrait not yet done
1014REDV.I. Kikvidze.mdl and 1073REDV.I. Kikvidze.mdl
946REDD.N. Nadiozhny.mdl and 1015REDD.N. Nadiozhny.mdl and 1092REDD.N. Nadiozhny.mdl
947REDA.E. Snesarev.mdl and 1016REDA.E. Snesarev.mdl and 1094REDA.E. Snesarev.mdl the portrait exists already, but is not mentioned in the MDL files
952REDP. Slaven.mdl and 980REDP. Slaven.mdl and 1019REDP. Slaven.mdl and 1100REDP. Slaven.mdl
1021REDM.V. Safonov.mdl
1022REDB.N. Ivanov .mdl photo found
1023REDM.A. Nikolsky.mdl
1024REDA. Backman.mdl
1025REDA.E. Leinonen.mdl can we find one from the Civil War era?
1026REDA. Stolbov.mdl
1027REDH. Salmela.mdl photo found
1028REDSorin.mdl
1029REDV. Hasu.mdl picture found, portrait not yet done
1030REDE. Karjalainen.mdl we need a better photo
1031REDV. Hurri.mdl
1034REDY. Sablin.mdl and 964REDY. Sablin.mdl
1036REDM.M. Lashevich.mdl and 976REDM.M. Lashevich.mdl
1040REDN.F. Gikalo.mdl picture found, portrait not yet done
1042REDSapozhkov.mdl
1043REDV.I. Pavlovsky.mdl
1044REDA.D. Kravchenko.mdl
1045REDZhigur.mdl
1046REDVolynsky.mdl
1048REDM. Poluyan.mdl
1049REDK.I. Kalnin.mdl
1050REDS.K. Timoshenko.mdl
1051REDI.F. Fedko.mdl and 982REDI.F. Fedko.mdl
1052REDI.S. Kutiakov.mdl
1053REDP.A. Solodukhin.mdl photo found
1054REDN.N. Stogov.mdl
1056REDF.K. Mironov.mdl
1058REDA. Aven.mdl
1060REDP.P. Lebedev.mdl photo found
1062REDAkachev.mdl
1063REDBaltisky.mdl
1065REDTriapitsyn.mdl we need a photo with just him
1066REDA. Skachko.mdl
971REDA.I. Avtonomov.mdl and 1067REDA.I. Avtonomov.mdl
973REDA. Rzhevsky.mdl and 1069REDA. Rzhevsky.mdl
1071REDE. Bosch.mdl
975REDE. Iskritsky.mdl and 1081REDE. Iskritsky.mdl
984REDK. Avksentevski.mdl and 1082REDK. Avksentevski.mdl
987REDP. Kniaginsky.mdl and 1083REDP. Kniaginsky.mdl
988REDN. Zhdanov.mdl and 1084REDN. Zhdanov.mdl
990REDS.K. Matsiletsky.mdl and 1085REDS.K. Matsiletsky.mdl
994REDA.I. Kork.mdl and 1089REDA.I. Kork.mdl
1095REDF. Makhin.mdl and 970REDF. Makhin.mdl
974REDA. Samoylo.mdl and 1096REDA. Samoylo.mdl
1097REDV.I. Shorin.mdl and 977REDV.I. Shorin.mdl
1098REDZ. Bliumberg.mdl and 978REDZ. Bliumberg.mdl
979REDT. Khvesin.mdl and 1099REDT. Khvesin.mdl
1101REDV. Chervanin.mdl and 981REDV. Chervanin.mdl
953REDV. Grittis.mdl and 1102REDV. Grittis.mdl and 985REDV. Grittis.mdl
986REDV. Liubimov.mdl and 1103REDV. Liubimov.mdl
1104REDA. Gekker.mdl and 989REDA. Gekker.mdl
995REDN.V. Sollogub.mdl and 1105REDN.V. Sollogub.mdl
998REDV.S. Lazarevich.mdl and 1107REDV.S. Lazarevich.mdl
999REDE.N. Sergeyev.mdl and 1108REDE.N. Sergeyev.mdl
1113REDV. Altfater.mdl
1114REDY. Berins.mdl
1115REDL.M. Galler.mdl
1116REDG.I. Lechenko.mdl
1117REDA. Nemits.mdl
1118REDI.S. Yumashev.mdl
1119REDP. Dybenko.mdl updated by ERISS, see below on this page
1121REDN.G. Markin.mdl
1128WHIKoshelev.mdl and 1162WHIKoshelev.mdl and 1218WHIKoshelev.mdl
1129WHIBelsky.mdl and 1163WHIBelsky.mdl AND 1219WHIBelsky.mdl
1137WHISlushov.mdl and 1164WHISlushov.mdl and 1216WHISlushov.mdl
1138WHICherbachev.mdl and 1165WHICherbachev.mdl and 1217WHICherbachev.mdl found, is lower on this page
1142WHIA.N. Grichin-Almazov.mdl and 1199WHIA.N. Grichin-Almazov.mdl and 1291WH3A.N. Grichin-Almazov.mdl
1143WHIK. Udovenko.mdl and 1197WHIK. Udovenko.mdl
1145WHIKryzhanovsky.mdl and 1184WHIKryzhanovsky.mdl
1149WHIM. Promtov.mdl and 1220WHIM. Promtov.mdl
1150WHIY. Yuzefovich.mdl and 1221WHIY. Yuzefovich.mdl
1152WHIS.G. Ulagai.mdl and 1182WHIS.G. Ulagai.mdl
1154WHIN. Shilling.mdl and 1209WHIN. Shilling.mdl photo found
1158WHIY.A. Slashev.mdl and 1222WHIY.A. Slashev.mdl
1161WHIA.P. Bogaevsky.mdl
1166WHIP. Mamontov.mdl
1169WHIA. Kolossovsky.mdl
1170WHIV. Vitkovsky.mdl
1171WHIP. Ossovsky.mdl
1172WHIN. Timanovsky.mdl
1173WHIA. Gubin.mdl
1174WHIS.M. Toporkov.mdl
1175WHIG. Rastogruev.mdl
1176WHII. Chekatovsky.mdl
1177WHIPatrikeev.mdl
1179WHIA. Lukomsky.mdl
1180WHIG.F. Bisherakhov.mdl
1181WHIM.O. Nezhentsev.mdl
1185WHIT. Ostroukhov.mdl
1186WHID. Repnikov.mdl
1188WHIN. Uspensky.mdl
1189WHIA. Cherepov.mdl
1190WHIN. Vadbolsky.mdl photo found
1191WHIIvanovsky.mdl photo found
1192WHIA. Revishin.mdl
1193WHIS.T. Dobrovolsky.mdl can we find one from the Civil War Era?
1194WHIM. Vinogradov.mdl
1195WHIA.A. Borovsky.mdl found, is lower on this page
1200WHIF.F. Abramov.mdl
1201WHIN. de Bode.mdl found, is lower on this page
1202WHIA.V. Korvin-Krukovski.mdl
1204WHIV.F. Subbotin.mdl
1205WHIB.I. Kazanovich.mdl
1207WHIRomanovsky.mdl
1214WHIPisarev.mdl
1215WHIN.E. Bredov.mdl
1223WHIV.A. Kanin.mdl photo found
1224WHIM.P. Sablin.mdl found, is lower on this page
1234DONN. Alekseev.mdl and 1269DONN. Alekseev.mdl
1235DONA.S. Sekretev.mdl and 1267DONA.S. Sekretev.mdl photo found
1237DONP.N. Kudinov.mdl and 1268DONP.N. Kudinov.mdl
1238DONI.A.. Poliakov.mdl photo found
1239DONA.P. Fitskhelaurov.mdl and 1265DONA.P. Fitskhelaurov.mdl photo found
1240DONS.V. Denisov.mdl and 1260DONS.V. Denisov.mdl
1241DONF.F. Abramov.mdl and 1242DONF.F. Abramov.mdl
1243DONA.I. Babkin.mdl photo found
1244DONS.K. Borodin.mdl
1245DONK.P. Shumilin.mdl
1246DONZ.A. Alferov.mdl
1247DONI. Donskov.mdl
1248DONO. Savvateev.mdl
1249DONN. Neimirok.mdl
1250DOND. Krivov.mdl
1251DONG. Makarov.mdl
1252DONI.E. Gulyga.mdl
1253DONB.V. Tolkuchin.mdl
1254DONK.V. Ermakov.mdl
1255DONEgorov.mdl
1256DONK. Medvedev.mdl
1257DONUshakov.mdl
1258DONBogatyrev.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1259DONE.F. Semiletov.mdl
1261DONI.F. Bykadorov.mdl
1263DONI.A. Poliakov.mdl
1271WH2S.N. Liupov.mdl and 1288WH2S.N. Liupov.mdl
1272WH2Galkin.mdl
1273WH2D. Popov.mdl and 1275WH2D. Popov.mdl
1274WH2V.G. Boldyrev.mdl and 1280WH2V.G. Boldyrev.mdl
1276WH2A.P. Stepanov.mdl
1278WH2F.E. Makhin.mdl and 1328WH3F.E. Makhin.mdl
1281WH2G. Yuriev.mdl
1282WH2G. Timanov.mdl
1283WH2A.S. Imshenetsky.mdl
1284WH2K. Podriachik.mdl
1285WH2A.P. Perkhurov.mdl
1289WH3A.G. Boldyrev.mdl
1292WH3M.F. Martynov.mdl and 1319WH3M.F. Martynov.mdl AND 1360WH3M.F. Martynov.mdl
1293WH3M.V. Khanzhin.mdl and 1298WH3M.V. Khanzhin.mdl
1294WH3V.S. Tolstov.mdl and 1316WH3V.S. Tolstov.mdl AND 1366WH3V.S. Tolstov.mdl
1300WH3A.V. Ellerts-Ussov.mdl and 1379WH3A.V. Ellerts-Ussov.mdl
1301WH3G. Zhukov.mdl and 1376WH3G. Zhukov.mdl
1303WH3Tseretely.mdl and 1378WH3Tseretely.mdl
1304WH3N. Sukhin.mdl and 1380WH3N. Sukhin.mdl
1305WH3Matsievsky.mdl and 1369WH3Matsievsky.mdl
1308WH3G.A. Verzhbitsky.mdl and 1358WH3G.A. Verzhbitsky.mdl found, is lower on this page
1309WH3N.A. Savelev.mdl and 1361WH3N.A. Savelev.mdl
1310WH3P.P Grivin.mdl and 1368WH3P.P Grivin.mdl
1311WH3V.I. Akutin.mdl
1313WH3A.F. Matkovsky.mdl
1314WH3Panov.mdl and 1338WH3Panov.mdl
1320WH3S. Dzhunkovsky.mdl
1321WH3Neiland.mdl
1323WH3E.K. Vishnevsky.mdl
1324WH3Matkovsky.mdl
1325WH3V.P. Gulidov.mdl
1326WH3V.N. Shishkin.mdl
1327WH3Baranovsky.mdl
1329WH3Filchev.mdl
1330WH3I.P. Kalmykov.mdl
1331WH3Kuznetsov.mdl
1332WH3Tetruev.mdl
1333WH3K. Kononov.mdl
1334WH3Tarasevich.mdl
1335WH3Vaniukov.mdl
1336WH3V. Kosmin.mdl
1337WH3F. Puchkov.mdl found, is lower on this page
1339WH3Mikhailov.mdl found, is lower on this page
1340WH3N.N. Golovin.mdl found, is lower on this page
1341WH3Milovich.mdl
1342WH3I.S. Smolin.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1343WH3Bulatov.mdl
1344WH3V. Ossipov.mdl photo found
1345WH3Voznessensky.mdl
1346WH3I.V. Savitsky.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1347WH3A. Ugo-Ugovets.mdl
1348WH3B. Zinevich.mdl
1349WH3B.F. Onchokov.mdl photo found
1350WH3T.I. Sladkov.mdl
1351WH3G. Machtakov.mdl
1353WH3G. Krutin.mdl
1354WH3Oraz Sirdar.mdl we need a better photo
1355WH3Juna-Id-Khan.mdl photo found
1357WH3D.F. Semenov.mdl found, is on page 2 of thread
1362WH3Igrash Bey.mdl
1363WH3Madanin-Bek.mdl on page 2 of thread
1364WH3Kurshirmat.mdl
1365WH3Macha-Bek.mdl
1370WH3V.M. Molchanov.mdl found, is lower on this page
1371WH3A.N. Lokhvitsky.mdl
1373WH3P.A. Belov.mdl
1374WH3I.N. Krasilnikov.mdl
1383WH4H.K. Von Neff.mdl
1385WH4A.P. Lieven.mdl found, is lower on this page
1388WH4D. Vetrenko.mdl
1390WH4F. Gueorg.mdl
1391WH4Arseniev.mdl
1392WH4Zhiropinsky.mdl
1394WH5V.S. Skobeltsyn.mdl and 1401WH5V.S. Skobeltsyn.mdl
1395WH5G.E Shaplin.mdl
1396WH5N.I. Zvegintsev.mdl
1397WH5V.V. Marushevsky.mdl photo found
1398WH5N.A. Durov.mdl
1399WH5Elvengren.mdl photo found
1400WH5A.A. Muruzi.mdl photo found
1403FINE.B. Lofstrom.mdl
1415ROMZadik.mdl
1543GERJ. Bischoff.mdl
1545GERP. Bermondt-Avalov.mdl picture found, portrait being made
1551GERH. Meurer.mdl
1607BALS. Zukauskas.mdl and 1619BALS. Zukauskas.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1611BALV. Puskar.mdl picture found, portrait being made
1612BALVariakojis.mdl
1613BALJ. Balodis.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1614BALJ. Purins.mdl
1615BALJ. Zemitans.mdl picture found, portrait not yet done
1616BALPenikis.mdl
1617BALK. Berkis.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1618BALK. Ladyga.mdl
1621CZEShorokov.mdl
1630CZEJ.J. Svec.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1632GRNP.M. Tokmakov.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1633GRNIgrash Bey.mdl
1634GRNMadanin-Bek.mdl photo found
1635GRNKurshirmat.mdl photo found
1636GRNMacha-Bek.mdl
1637GRNA. Bukeikhanov.mdl
1638GRNAziz Khan.mdl photo found
1639GRNK.I. Monstrov.mdl
1640GRND. Terpylo.mdl found, can be seen on this page of the thread
1641GRNP.M. Moritz.mdl
1642GRNE.S. Kazansky.mdl
1645ANAN.A. Grigoriev.mdl found, can be seen on this page of the thread
1649UKRV. Oskilko.mdl
1650UKRA. Wolf.mdl
1651UKRV. Tarnavskyi.mdl
1653UKRA. Grekov.mdl
1654UKRP. Bolbochan.mdl
1658POLW. Iwaszkiewicz.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1661POLS. Majewski.mdl
1664POLA. Listowski.mdl and 1680POLA. Listowski.mdl
1667POLS. Skrzynski.mdl
1668POLM. Osikowski.mdl
1670POLJ. Czikiel.mdl
1671POLA. Kuczewski.mdl
1673POLK. Raszewski.mdl photo found, is on page 2 of this thread
1674POLDojana-Surowki.mdl
1675POLD. Konarzewski.mdl
1676POLK.S. Schubert.mdl
1679POLS.Z. Kaliszek.mdl
1682POLF. Paulik.mdl
1683POLW. Jung.mdl
1684POLS. Rosnowski.mdl
1686POLF. Krajowski.mdl
1687POLS. Haller.mdl
1693FRA P.H. d'Anselme.mdl
1699FRA A.E. Nerel.mdl photo found
1700FRA E.G. Trousson.mdl
1703FRA E.E. Pruneau.mdl photo found
1704FRA F.L. Jouinot-Gambetta.mdl
1708GBRJ. Elmsley.mdl and 1720GBRJ. Elmsley.mdl photo found
1709GBR D.C. Poole.mdl
1710GBR C. Maynard.mdl and 1717GBR C. Maynard.mdl
1713GBRC.D. Shute.mdl
1714GBRC.L. Campbell.mdl
1715GBRW. Malleson.mdl
1716GBRA. Knox.mdl found, can be seen on this page of the thread
1718GBRH. Hawley.mdl
1719GBRD. Knollys.mdl
1722GBRNorris.mdl
1725USA G.E. Stewart.mdl found, can be seen on this page of the thread
1726USA W.S. Graves.mdl found, can be seen on this page of the thread
1742GRENither.mdl
1743GRETzalakopoulos.mdl
1749CAUV. Jugheli.mdl found, can be seen on this page of the thread
1750CAUArtmeladze.mdl
1751CAUK. Cholokashvili.mdl found, can be seen on this page of the thread
943REDS. Kojnilov.mdl
960REDA. Aaltonen.mdl and 961REDA. Aaltonen.mdl photo needed
963REDM. Svechnikov.mdl picture found, it is in post immediately below
967REDM.A. Muraviev.mdl

BTW, the Romanian general "Grigorescu" is misspelled everywhere as "Grigerescu".

I will start looking through Wikipedia tomorrow...

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Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:28 am

Василеостровск, your advice was awesome. Not good. Awesome. Here are some portraits, should anyone start helping OneArmedMexican :cool: :

Stepanov:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Vasily_Alexandrovich_Stepanov.jpg

Zhloba:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/a/ab/Zhloba.jpg

Piatakov (I think I saw this guy at a rock concert a few weeks ago):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Pyatakov.jpg

Karjalainen (obviously the man on the right)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Erkki_Karjalainen.JPG

Hasu:
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Vihtori_Hasu.JPG
or
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Vihtori_Hasu.JPG

Gronroos:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Gronroos_osmo.jpg

Gikalo:
attached.

Schors:
also attached.

Remezov:
also attached.

Zemitans:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/lv/3/32/Zemitans.gif
Attachments
Remezov.jpg
Schors.jpg
gikalo.jpg

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Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:51 am

983REDS.A. Mezheninov.mdl
Image

963REDM. Svechnikov.mdl
Image

960REDA. Aaltonen.mdl and 961REDA. Aaltonen.mdl
Finn Red leader killed in 1918, best i could find anywhere was photo of drawing, but year on drawing says 1976, not sure on authentication.
Image

I hope this helps I can continue when I have more time
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Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:03 pm

No problem, take your time, OneArmedMexican already has a bunch of photos to work with.

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Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:46 pm

1645ANAN.A. Grigoriev.mdl
For "Anarchist Nikifor Ataman Grigoriev"???
He was not anarchist (but nowadays fascists say he was the true one) nor Green (even they were the sole sides he didn't attack, he was rejected from), he was an independant pogromist warchief. I'll say he must be White:
At first he was a tsarist officer, and after switching sides 6 times with almost all sides, having fought against these sides, he wanted to return to the Whites (he had fought against): Makhno's girlfriend shot him dead (many different accounts about Grig's end) and Makhno succeded in integrating his troops (which was proved looters, then fired)!
Image
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Servetnyk.jpg

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Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:39 pm

1726USA W.S. Graves.mdl (found several)
Image
Image

1716GBRA. Knox.mdl (seated)
Image

1725USA G.E. Stewart.mdl
Image
Image
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Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:56 pm

Caucasians:

1751CAUK. Cholokashvili.mdl
Image
(seated on right)
Image

1749CAUV. Jugheli.mdl

Image

1745CAUMekhmandarov.mdl

Image

Artmeladze is proving hard
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Russia, Ukraine, Belarus - The Slavic tribes' three knights

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Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:46 pm

1640GRND. Terpylo.mdl
Danylo(Daniel?) TERPYLO
(Ataman Zeleny: "great cossak leader of the Green Army", elected when 32 years old)
Image
Redden aged: http://www.aratta-ukraine.com/text_ua.php?id=474
Original: http://sd.org.ua/news.php?id=10646
Image
[email="skv@obuhov.net"]© Анатолій Михайлович Висота, канд. хім. наук[/email]
(I send Anatoly a mail)

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Azerbeijan call him "Səməd bəy Mehmandarov" with full name "Səməd bəy Sadıx bəy oğlu Mehmandarov" means "son of Səməd bəy"
"bəy" means like "Mister"

You are looking at Rus Graphics leader units?
Found portraits can have check near them. Is Barbu's list are done? I can look also.

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I was just looking at names barbu said had no picture and looking on runet, admitting I know very little about caucasian aspect of war. I have been researching now though.
Россия, Украина, Белоруссия - Племён славянских три богатыря

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Edited, with picture, the most antisemit ataman:
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showpost.php?p=192778&postcount=19

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В wrote:I was just looking at names barbu said had no picture and looking on runet, admitting I know very little about caucasian aspect of war. I have been researching now though.


No I also dont know much, just trying to find similarity in wording. as names are expressed as English translated letters,some pronunciation differences can result failure in google search. Even one letter can make difference. Ex:Igrash Bey. It is "sh" in middle but not sure. or "Ataman" it also looks like "Kazak" name.

Edit: Juna-Id-Khan, Kurshirmat, Oraz Sırdar not possible to find.

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Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:20 pm

Thank you all, for these amazing new portraits. :thumbsup: It saves me a huge amount of time if I don't have to search the internet myself.

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Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:13 pm

... and I have updated the list by placing in italics the names of those for whom we've got photos and also explaining where in this thread their photos are.

It's hard to say, really, but a quick look at the list tells me we've got a big problem with White leaders.

Quick Arm Mexican, can you write an explanation of what you do with each photo? Maybe those of us who dabble :bonk: with PaintNet or Photoshop can follow the instructions and help you get things done faster. Like what filters and effects you use...

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Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:50 pm

Speaking of Whites....

1337WH3F. Puchkov.mdl
http://pics.livejournal.com/d_m_vestnik/pic/0046dh3b (I think the third from the left)

1339WH3Mikhailov.mdl
(attached to this post)

1308WH3G.A. Verzhbitsky.mdl and 1358WH3G.A. Verzhbitsky.mdl
(attached to this post)

1183WHIV.L. Pokrovsky.mdl
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/Pokrovaky-vl.jpg

1138WHICherbachev.mdl and 1165WHICherbachev.mdl and 1217WHICherbachev.mdl
(attached)

1370WH3V.M. Molchanov.mdl
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/2a/Molchanov_V.M.jpg

1224WHIM.P. Sablin.mdl
(attached to this post)

1195WHIA.A. Borovsky.mdl
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/8/81/Borovskiy_A.A..jpg

1340WH3N.N. Golovin.mdl
http://www.ihst.ru/projects/emigrants/pics/golovin.jpg

1385WH4A.P. Lieven.mdl
http://www.liventsy.ru/images/liven.jpg

1201WHIN. de Bode.mdl
http://www.gazeta.lv/images/Bode_Alexander.jpg


I have re-updated the big list.
Attachments
cherba.jpg
verzh.jpg
sablin.jpg
mikhailov.jpg

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1119REDP. Dybenko.mdl
Pavel Efimovich Dybenko
Bolshevik corrupt general of the Ukraine invasion.
Commanded makhnovist and Grigoriev armies against Denikin in 1919.
[SIZE="1"](2 pictures and 2 drawings here: http://hrono.info/biograf/bio_d/dybenko_pe.php)[/size]
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Then invaded Crimea to the South as independant landlord for few months, instead of going East as ordered.
Then come back to Moscow in 1920, downgraded to military student.
In 1921, he was given the lead to attack and destroy the freeing soviet of Kronstadt.
[SIZE="1"] He was then the left arm of the 3 command table on this picture:[/size]
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