Although it should be pointed out that von Rosen was also a founder member of the Swedish Nazi Party (Nationalsocialistiska blocket) in 1933, and Hermann Göring's brother-in-law. So saying that his use of the swastika has nothing to do with the German use of it is stretching things a little.Raidhaennor wrote:"Von Rosen had painted his personal good luck charm on the Thulin Typ D aircraft. This charm – a blue swastika, the ancient symbol of good luck – was adopted as the insignia of the Finnish Air Force"
StephenT wrote:Although it should be pointed out that von Rosen was also a founder member of the Swedish Nazi Party (Nationalsocialistiska blocket) in 1933, and Hermann Göring's brother-in-law. So saying that his use of the swastika has nothing to do with the German use of it is stretching things a little.
andatiep wrote:By respect to Mannerheim choice ? But why Mannerheim choosed to adopt it and to keep it during all the 30's and 40's ? It was not a clever diplomatic choice to slow down Stalin's view on Finland and to get Allies support.
Baris wrote:I guess Stalin didnt attack because of the symbol or the Allies didnt help because of that.. (LOL)
Even Western powers were relatively more democratic to Germany, It doesn't mean western europe was less ra..st. They were more politically correct and rational said an English professor when I talked before.
andatiep wrote:I wanted to say that the finnish swastika was surely white bread for the communist propaganda from 30's to "prove" that Finland was a nazi satelite of the 3d Reich, and that this kind of very visible symbol could have make it also less easy for the western governments to call for helping Finland against URSS if they faced themselves communist/socialist opposition.
Any propaganda and rumor need a little piece of true to be very efficient...
There is a symbol found in Sibbo in Finland. A Labyrinth.
andatiep wrote:Nice. Do you have a datation of this symbol ?
White Guard wrote:Think before calling people to neonazis without any proof it makes you look ignorant
havi wrote:The blue swastika is symbol of Finnish air forces And it is still symbol of our airforce,
"The FAF changed the insignia after 1944, due to an Allied Control Commission decree prohibiting the existence of Pro-Hitler and Fascism organizations. The Hakaristi was removed due to the resemblance to the Nazi Swastika."
havi wrote: and it there because it was a symbol of the guy ho gave the first air plane to Finland in ciwil war. And it is Stone Age symbol as well in Finland and it is found in cave paintings in here.. There u have nazi propaganda now go and hang your self.
StephenT wrote:von Rosen was also a founder member of the Swedish Nazi Party (Nationalsocialistiska blocket) in 1933, and Hermann Göring's brother-in-law. So saying that his use of the swastika has nothing to do with the German use of it is stretching things a little.
The von Rosen swastika
Eric von Rosen had been using a swastika as a personal owner's mark. He originally saw the symbol on runestones in Gotland, while at school. Knowing that the symbol signified good luck for the Vikings, he utilized the symbol and had it carved into all his luggage when going on an expedition to South America in 1901. Being a friend of Finland, he gave the newly independent state an aircraft, which signified the beginning of the Finnish Air Force. The aircraft, a license manufactured Morane-Saulnier MS Parasol/Thulin D, was marked with his badge, a blue swastika on a white background. The Finnish Air Force adopted this roundel as their national insignia.
Göring had noted the swastika during his stay in Sweden and at von Rosens' castle (forged into a metal piece at the fireplace). However, the swastika of the German Nazi party had been adopted already in 1920, two years before Göring met Adolf Hitler.
Former president Tarja Halonen (SDP) receiving the official standard of the Finnish air force at the presidential palace.
RebelYell wrote:Finnish culture and population is one of the least altered in Europe during the past 1500 years, this symbol is part of that heritage, it really was not invented by van Rosen as it is international for millenia so we can continue to use it.
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