Disculpa
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Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:39 pm

Sorry for muy bad english

Hello, how can I take Tzarist like the Cossacks before December 1918? I need the alliance with the Ukrainians :dada:

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:04 am

Are you playing as the Southern Whites or the Eastern (Siberian) Whites? And what scenario are you playing?

Your English is very clear.

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:51 am

Grand Campaing and Southern Whites

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:24 am

Thank you for clarifying. The Ukrainian situation is a bit complex. As you know, a major part of the Ukrainian forces are anarchist who may become allied with the Red faction. The main Ukrainian nationalist faction is independent. While it will not ally with the Southern Whites, it will also be an opponent of the Reds.
A good thing to do is to treat them as an ally as they provide a buffer in the Ukraine allowing you time to consolidate the Kuban.

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:38 am

To allied with the Ukranians i need take Tzarist :(

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:38 am

I understand what you are saying and have never done this. Hopefully someone else will let us know now to do this.

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:31 pm

- 1) This Option can be activated by the Western Whites' player only if the town of
Tzaritsyn is controlled by the Western Whites -BEFORE- December 1918.
- 2) This option will be automatically activated if Denikin did not invaded the Kuban in late
November 1918, so if the Western Whites don't hold Ekaterinodar and any of the towns
more in the South.


Condition for alliance is written in chronology manual.

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:06 am

Baris, as always, thank you for providing your input. I kind of knew about taking Tzaritsyn, but as it is such a challenge I had forgotten as I have never managed to take this city.
I am not sure what is meant by #2: This option will be automatically activated if Denikin did not invaded the Kuban in late
November 1918, so if the Western Whites don't hold Ekaterinodar and any of the towns more in the South.

The Western White can never hold Ekaterinodar as far as I know. This would be the Siberian Whites, at best. So does this mean if the Western Whites avoid invading the Kuban alone. And how is this possible as Denikin's forces begin in the Kuban?

Thanks.

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:06 am

Capturing Tzaritzyn before late 1918 is not much possible in a pbem. Infact Western Whites need Eastern Whites support later in game if ever going to capture Tzaritzyn.

For the 2nd condition of alliance option, it is not good enough for W. Whites to be idle. Capturing all Southern Theatre south to Terek much better strategy until more regions are open for play I think.

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Re: Take Tzarist before December 1918?

Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:05 am

Thank you Baris! :sherlock:

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