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Replacing Red GHQ in Caucasus - Armavir

Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:31 pm

In the campaign game, eventually the red 3-star leader of the GHQ in the Caucasus town of Armavir deserts and leaves the GHQ city with no leader. How do you replace the leader of that GHQ? The manual says you just promote a 2-star when they are in the same region. However when you have two-stars there, the option to promote doesn't appear available. Does Armavir cease to be a GHQ city when the original 3-star deserts? It doesn't seem you can replace him.

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Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:26 pm

. Maybe it is WAD: The town is not set to be a bolshevik GHQ place (to be verified), maybe once the historical leader here is gone, the Red can't replace him (and if this is it, okay a warning is missing).
. Or maybe it's a bug: Armavir may have been forgotten as a GHQ potential place...

Andatiep should answer the good reason.

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Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:30 pm

No more GHQ in Armavir in the north Caucasus for the Reds after the event which remove it. You should use (or build by Global Option if none) the GHQ of Tsaritsyn or Tambov to set 2 stars leaders as corps leaders in this GHQ range before sending this leaders in north caucasus to have corps leaders there.

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Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:54 pm

andatiep wrote:No more GHQ in Armavir in the north Caucasus for the Reds after the event which remove it. You should use (or build by Global Option if none) the GHQ of Tsaritsyn or Tambov to set 2 stars leaders as corps leaders in this GHQ range before sending this leaders in north caucasus to have corps leaders there.


Thanks, it is good to know. I wonder at the reasoning though. This seems designed to ensure the Reds lose in the Caucasus, since the Whites can build a GHQ in Ekaterinodar if they take it. Sending corps leaders down from Tzaritsyn or Tambov seems a makeshift solution. Does this reflect historical trends where Caucasus was a lost cause to the Reds no matter what? Or is this a design feature to help games against the AI play out historically? No Red GHQ in the Caucasus seems to also make the World Revolution in the Caucasus choice a no-brainer "no" since the Reds would fight without a GHQ against Whites with a GHQ plus whomever shows up for the Greens (unless Baku becomes a GHQ city?). Although a situation also exists in the southeast Turkmen areas where the Reds have no GHQ at all, both sides don't have one so it balances out. But one side with a GHQ and one without just seems strange.

Anyway, I am fine with it as a design decision, if the purpose is to close down the Caucasus eventually as a battlefield of the war. But there should definitely be information added either to the tool tip or elsewhere in the documentation. Otherwise someone not reading this thread would be wondering why they cannot replace the GHQ leader in Armavir. An unwary Red might heavily reinforce Caucasus, not realizing he is supposed to evacuate before his GHQ disappears.

Another option might be to create a new Red decision event where they can decide whether to make Grozny a new GHQ city or, if they choose the world revolution event, make Baku one. It would come at a hefty cost, but would provide an option. On the other hand, I am not sure how historical it would be. I would guess the Reds cared most about the Moscow and St. Petersburg core areas, not the far off Caucasus. If so, maybe better to leave as is.

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