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Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:46 pm

I suppose it is too late for the release, but Nadasdy's portrait is wrong

He is not the guy of my avatar :D ;)

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Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:15 am

Nikel wrote:I suppose it is too late for the release, but Nadasdy's portrait is wrong

He is not the guy of my avatar :D ;)


A lot of leaders in RoP have portraits copied from WiA instead of just generic (faceless) portraits, I assume that's the case for Nadasdy (no clue who he is)...
Marc aka Caran...

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Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:17 am

Oh I see.


Understand the decision that it is better to have a wrong portrait of important commanders than a faceless one, due to the lack of original portraits of the period.


But this is not the case of Nadasdy, besides the one of the avatar there are several available ;)



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Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:15 pm

Seems it has been missed by the artist and source finders...could you try to produce one for us?
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Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:19 pm

My avatar lost forver I will have to change it :)



Hope it is good enough, in the place of Frederick just for testing


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Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:41 pm

Nikel wrote:My avatar lost forver I will have to change it :)


Good for you! That mustache didn't fit you well ;) :D

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Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:48 pm

And the beard without mustache? :D ;)

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Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:26 pm

Looks great ... send me the guy by email ;)
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:48 am

I continue slowly looking at the portraits, it would be easier with the databases... :neener:

Noiced another glitch, perhaps it is intended?


Von Belling portrait is not used for vB himself but for austrian Lucchese(i) and another prusian commander? Do not remember it I have not acces to the game right now.

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A little glitch in the names; Picolomini is Piccolomini?

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Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:06 pm

We shall post the Excel DB very soon. After the next patch, may be over the week-end.

Took note of required fix, thanks :cool:
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Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:12 pm

Thanks PhilThib. Two portraits of prussian commanders. Fell free to use them if you like them :thumbsup: This is the best I can get, cannot create them identical to Gpepper's style

No way to find a portrait of Lucchese :confused:

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Puttkamer, new one
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von Wedell, this is right, to replace WIA one
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:42 am

Perfect. Fixed an error in Models file, Lucchese should now appear correct (Sorry Arsan, you were Lucchese, you are now Stahremberg) :D

Please keep on supplying them as you see fit, I'll be glad to add them in the incoming patches. :cool:

If you want to see them now, add the following inside the game (after patch 1.01f is applied). Don't forget to remove the ModelsCached file. ;)
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:33 am

Thanks PhilThib :thumbsup:

After patch 1.01f ?


By the way, gpepper is part of the team now? Or a freelancer? If I post a picture he will not create a portrait, will he? I cannot create it from scratch myself, just add the color.


Another thing, the pictures of the portraits folder are a bit small. This is the specially the case of the cavalry ones, there is some room for them in the units panel for them to be bigger and with more detail. They are nearly impossible to mod.

The original, full size, can be posted?

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Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:44 pm

Nikel wrote:Thanks PhilThib. Two portraits of prussian commanders. Fell free to use them if you like them :thumbsup: This is the best I can get, cannot create them identical to Gpepper's style


I am sorry but yours look better than mine ! :thumbsup: stop this ! :D

Nikel wrote:By the way, gpepper is part of the team now? Or a freelancer? If I post a picture he will not create a portrait, will he? I cannot create it from scratch myself, just add the color.


No I am not, still a freelancer.
I use to create the portrait with a base picture and redo it in Illustrator. Then I import it in photoshop and resize it...
If you post something, Ageod have to pay me if they want the new portrait...
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:45 pm

gpepper wrote: redo it in Illustrator



Cannot do that, only add the color to a black and white portrait like the ones above. Or extract from a color painting and they will look strange :confused:


gpepper wrote:If you post something, Ageod have to pay me if they want the new portrait...



But RoP is your baby, so you must want that it grows happy and strong :D ;)

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Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:52 am

They're great Nikel but stylistically they look hostile in the vector graphics of the game. IMHO

I'm point out some errors i found in demo:

I'm recommending this model as austrian german infantry:
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and that which is used for it as austrian light and technician troops (especially looking at those prussian sappers is difficult for me)

I also noticed overusing of hungarian infantry - in saxony as garrison and line - this looks really odd. That model has typical hungarian details (moustache, braids...) and dont fit to represent any other models. I also found this model as garrison unit throughout the bohemia and moravia:
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he looks as hungarian frontier troop (and they also defined as "hungarian elite infantry" in the game) so they dont represent bohemian garrison quite well.

This model should be saxon line rather than french - french infantry never used black gaiters and red neckstock
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Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:08 am

Pangi, you did a few for AACW and they were identical to the original :thumbsup:

So I will renew the request to gpepper, but to you ;)


Got Puttkamer in the link below, and there is also a portrait of Macquire, that is wrong in the game. Can you create them?

http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/gefechte/17570620.html


Wedell



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Franz Jahnus von Eberstädt

http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/gefechte/17580630domstaedtel.html



If you create them I can retire ;)


Also will you mod or create units like for WIA?
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Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:42 am

Nikel, please dont think about retirement...im just annoying pedant.

I'll try to make my version...

EDIT: Maquire:
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another strange facial expression for RoP
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Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:03 am

PANGI wrote:Nikel, please dont think about retirement...im just annoying pedant.



No, you are right ;)

Busy now with military options graphics. Though it is difficult to find quality pictures that fit well with the options :confused:





PANGI wrote:I'll try to make my version...



Great, thanks :thumbsup:

And do nor forget uniforms. Already have a request ;)


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Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:28 am

PANGI wrote:Nikel, please dont think about retirement...im just annoying pedant.

I'll try to make my version...



You are most welcome...especially when we consider the high quality of your production :thumbsup: :coeurs:
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Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:27 pm

Pangi, do not edit if you post something important, can be missed, even more considering that there is a new beta patch thread ;)


Yes, what I said, identical, what do you mean with another strange facial expression for RoP? We need another one though for armies and fleets folder :thumbsup:

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Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:15 pm

sorry...so here is Macquire
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Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:27 pm

Keep them coming! :thumbsup:


Please redo Puttkamer and Wedell.


I think that Nadasdy is OK...

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Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:53 pm

Nikel wrote:Keep them coming! :thumbsup:


Please redo Puttkamer and Wedell.


I think that Nadasdy is OK...


Perhaps the leader and unit graphics could best be a new thread? :D
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Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:53 pm

Concerning uniforms the Saxons (in the Invasion of Saxony-Scenario) look quite weird. :w00t: As Pangi said, they look like Hungarian troops. Also, the Saxon Grenadiers wear tricorns instead of Prussian-style grenadier-mitras.
I don't know how reliable my source is though, and it is only a very very very tiny detail ;) Probably they all wore even worse rags than we think.

My source (you can click on the names of the regiments in the list to see the uniforms...)

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Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:10 am

Thanks Pangi. Remember that Wedell is more important, he commands a column ;)


And another one, british Conway


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Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:21 pm

Great work guys! :thumbsup:

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Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:35 am

I have one question/suggestion about models:
anybody knows what this model represents in real?:
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never seen uniform like this (it looks almost as designers vagary) ->
my question is why is not used this model as prussian guard?:
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