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Warning for "PoN Japan" players

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:16 am
by deoved
When Boshin War came, thee regions (toyama, nagoya, hokaido) change ownership to REB by event. It may not look that bad, but on recapture they convert to permanent colonial provinces (maybe REB unciv nation). Your country will be effectively split in half (by toyama, nagoya) and second half disconnected from capital by "colonies" loose national territory status (became only claimed), you loose 1/3 of consumer market.

Advise: Remove from event "change ownership" lines BEFORE Boshin War.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:36 am
by makotech222
WOW thanks for the advice! ill be sure to do that right away

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:15 am
by PhilThib
deoved wrote:When Boshin War came, thee regions (toyama, nagoya, hokaido) change ownership to REB by event. It may not look that bad, but on recapture they convert to permanent colonial provinces (maybe REB unciv nation). Your country will be effectively split in half (by toyama, nagoya) and second half disconnected from capital by "colonies" loose national territory status (became only claimed), you loose 1/3 of consumer market.

Advise: Remove from event "change ownership" lines BEFORE Boshin War.


That's a undesired and problematic effect. Do you happen to have a save of the turn of recapture and the turn before it? It would be very helpful for finding out what is wrong... :bonk:

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:08 pm
by deoved
PhilThib wrote:That's a undesired and problematic effect. Do you happen to have a save of the turn of recapture and the turn before it? It would be very helpful for finding out what is wrong... :bonk:


Sorry but i was in so bad mood when tried to resolve and fix that, that i restored previous saves do several turns and old saves now overriden :(

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:30 pm
by deoved
I "salvaged" turn before but not after. But it can be reproduced by simply pressing end turn button.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:41 pm
by PhilThib
Perfect...I tried it, but could not reproduce the bug, after the following turn, all regions were conquered in battle and restaured to full normal JAP ownership...will forward it to devs so that they can look into this one :confused:

But the whole save is very instructive....for my information, did you patch it to 1.01h or played with an earlier version? Looks like diplomacy is "surprising" ;)

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:40 pm
by deoved
PhilThib wrote:But the whole save is very instructive....for my information, did you patch it to 1.01h or played with an earlier version? Looks like diplomacy is "surprising" ;)


Ah, you mean the Mighty Confederacy, and other things. I begin with 1.01e and then patch trough f and g to 1.01h.

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:16 pm
by tux
I have the same with my Japan game. I now have trouble to get enough private capital. The state fund is still rising.
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:13 am
by deoved
Yes i was talking about exactly that. Tried to fix that myself by creating event but not find any operator or function that return "national soil" status to Toyama and Nagoya.

Only way i can find: revert to turn before Boshin War and edit JAP events.

Find this event "evt_nam_JAP_BoshinWar1868" in the file and delete lines:


SelectRegion = $Toyama
ChangeRgnOwner = JAP



SelectFaction = $REB
SelectRegion = $Nagoya

SelectRegion = $Nagoya
ChangeRgnOwner = JAP



SelectFaction = $REB
SelectRegion = $Hokaido

SelectRegion = $Hokaido
ChangeRgnOwner = JAP

Don't know why they are here, all works the same without them.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:54 am
by Athens
deoved wrote:Yes i was talking about exactly that. Tried to fix that myself by creating event but not find any operator or function that return "national soil" status to Toyama and Nagoya.

Only way i can find: revert to turn before Boshin War and edit JAP events.

Find this event "evt_nam_JAP_BoshinWar1868" in the file and delete lines:


SelectRegion = $Toyama
ChangeRgnOwner = JAP



SelectFaction = $REB
SelectRegion = $Nagoya

SelectRegion = $Nagoya
ChangeRgnOwner = JAP



SelectFaction = $REB
SelectRegion = $Hokaido

SelectRegion = $Hokaido
ChangeRgnOwner = JAP

Don't know why they are here, all works the same without them.


For fixing an ongoing game do the reverse:

SelectFaction = $JAP
SelectRegion = $Toyama
ChangeRgnOwner = REB



SelectFaction = $JAP
SelectRegion = $Nagoya

SelectRegion = $Nagoya
ChangeRgnOwner = REB



SelectFaction = $JAP
SelectRegion = $Hokaido

SelectRegion = $Hokaido
ChangeRgnOwner = REB

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:01 pm
by deoved
Athens wrote:For fixing an ongoing game do the reverse:

SelectFaction = $JAP
SelectRegion = $Toyama
ChangeRgnOwner = REB



SelectFaction = $JAP
SelectRegion = $Nagoya

SelectRegion = $Nagoya
ChangeRgnOwner = REB



SelectFaction = $JAP
SelectRegion = $Hokaido

SelectRegion = $Hokaido
ChangeRgnOwner = REB


Yes(i tried this earlier) this return JAP ownership of this provinces, but REB faction is "uncivilised". Even returned this privinces will stay colonial and as they(toyama, nogoya) deny land connection to half country this halve stays non national.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:48 pm
by makotech222
Is there a post-bonin war fix that works? I forgot to change it in my game now im stuck without the provinces


Edit: tried looking around the wiki for an event script to set a region to a national territory, but couldn't. The only thing i found was changing a colony to a national territory :(

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:04 pm
by deoved
makotech222 wrote:Is there a post-bonin war fix that works? I forgot to change it in my game now im stuck without the provinces


Edit: tried looking around the wiki for an event script to set a region to a national territory, but couldn't. The only thing i found was changing a colony to a national territory :(



The only solution i can find: revert to turn before civilwar and fix event.

Oh, you must also fix Satsuma Rebellion event, or suffer almost same consequences.

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:20 am
by makotech222
oh boy. what year does that occur, and what do i delete?

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:44 pm
by deoved
makotech222 wrote:oh boy. what year does that occur, and what do i delete?


Satsuma Rebellion, you mean?

Find "evt_nam_JAP_SatsumaRebellion1877"

delete "ChangeRgnOwner = JAP" in


SelectFaction = $REB
ChangeLoyaltyFac = $Area_Area_Kyushu;25
ChangeRgnOwner = JAP