marcusjm
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Small but cool detail

Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:14 pm

I really like that the various goods get the regional name and not just "wine".
It sounds much cooler with Ligurian Wines than just the regular Wine label.

For us Wine drinkers the region is a big deal ;) .

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Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:54 pm

That reminded me : :)
Why, ungrateful man, repine,
When this cup is bright with wine?
All my life I've sought in vain,
Knowledge and content to gain;

Omar Khayyam "Rubaiyyat". Persian philospher.
Wine was also popular in Persia (Samarkand) back in very old times.

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Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:21 pm

Ah, Omar Khayyam, one of my favourite poets - do you have a favourite translation, Baris? I'm only familiar with Edward Fitzgerald's, Franz Toussaint's, and J. B. Nicolas' translations, but I know there are many more...

And much as Wine has played the Infidel
And robbed me of my robe of Honour, well ...
I often wonder what the vintners buy
One half so precious as the stuff they sell

For some we loved, the loveliest and best
That from His rolling vintage Time has pressed,
Have drunk their glass a round or two before,
And one by one crept silently to rest
"I'm ashamed of you, dodging that way. They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance."ImageImage
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:23 am

John Sedgwick, That one you posted also one of my favorites indeed :) . Translations are also very good. Thanks to everyone who translated his work, otherwise nobody would be aware of him.

They sell a wine called "Les Caves Gianaclis Cabernet Sauvignon Omar Khayyam "(what a name! ) in Egypt, but the taste of the wine doesn't represents the Khayyam's taste of life&wine at all. :D :cool:

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Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:54 pm

stop it you people. Only one poet needs to be cited on a PON thread :D

Tommy
by Rudyard Kipling (1865– 1936)
I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,'' when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'' when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

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