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Diplomacy with Serbia

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:47 pm
by bosk
In the boardgame it's possible to do diplomacy with Serbia in August1914.
I wanted to do it to have Serbia with Central Power, but impossible to find Serbia in the list of country.

In exchange i found Albania, but i thinked that was impossible?


So what i missed?


Thanks.

(I play with 1.05i).

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:50 pm
by calvinus
You missed nothing. Let's say I have to add a special rule for Serbia... a bit complex. Job for next versions... :love:

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:22 pm
by PhilThib
bosk wrote:In the boardgame it's possible to do diplomacy with Serbia in August1914.
I wanted to do it to have Serbia with Central Power, but impossible to find Serbia in the list of country.


Serbia cannot really be CP, even in the boardgame. Diplomacy with her is done via Austrian options (the Ultimatum) in the warplans window in August 1914 and only then...
If Serbia accepts the ultimatum, it is kind of annexed by Austria, but war still erupts... that's about it for Serbian diplomacy (and it was the same in the boardgame).

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:25 pm
by calvinus
Yes, but in the boardgame you can send diplomats in order to pressure the acceptance of the ultimatum, during the diplomatic pre-phase only...
This option is not possible in the PC game, sorry. :(

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:23 pm
by bosk
You may have a Serbia CP without taking the good option (but that helps it's sure), in the boardgame and PCgame (if the rule is correct).

If Serbia reach the lvl 7+ in the diplomacy track, you've in PCgame rule( but i'm sure that is the same in the boardgame):
"It [Serbia] become a minor ally of Austria-Hungary"

Ok Calvinus, i'll wait ;)

Diplomacy?

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:34 pm
by tagwyn
Hey "Old Man:" Negotiating with Serbia in 1914 would be somewhat akin to the turkey negotiating on Thanksgiving with hungry diners!! What is there to negotiate? The Archduke is dead!!!!!!!! The cat is out of the bag!!! Now is time to fight of surrender! Flip a coin ... either side comes up a loss. :p apy:

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:07 am
by calvinus
Yes, there's a minor chance that Serbia accepts the ultimatum. A diplomatic check is indeed performed on Serbia during the diplomatic pre-phase only, scripted by rules, but you cannot send there any diplomats, so being not able to "help" yourself... This could be introduced in a future version as improvement. ;)

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:07 pm
by Syagrius
In my last game, Italy got in the Central Powers in the first turn!! I am Entente. Is it something happening often with other players?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:10 pm
by Flop
In my current game as CP they joined the entente on the first or second turn. I haven't had them join anyone in any of my other games, although most of them ran only for a few turns.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:23 pm
by sval06
Syagrius wrote:In my last game, Italy got in the Central Powers in the first turn!! I am Entente. Is it something happening often with other players?



It also depends on Central powers warplans and options ;)
If AH agrees on Trentin and Germany plays a diplomatic poker on them, then there is a big probability that Italy goes to war as a central power. :thumbsup: