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Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:57 pm

Of course, all will no doubt agree it's a shame it wasn't available at release (and some will never stop reminding us of that fact :confused: :bonk :) .

But I want to go on record as saying that this is one of the most complete PC game manuals I've seen. The only other one's I can remember that have this level of detail in the manual are FoF and WitP. I'm sure there are others, but to be mentioned in the same breath as those manuals is saying a lot.

Great job. The game is ready for release now :D :thumbsup: :coeurs: :thumbsup:

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Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:51 pm

AndrewKurtz wrote:But I want to go on record as saying that this is one of the most complete PC game manuals I've seen. The only other one's I can remember that have this level of detail in the manual are FoF and WitP. I'm sure there are others, but to be mentioned in the same breath as those manuals is saying a lot.

Great job. The game is ready for release now :D :thumbsup: :coeurs: :thumbsup:


Fully agree. :thumbsup: FoF is better to read but this is more complex. The best manual i had ever read was Balance of Power. Still reading it from time to time. The old SSI games had a good manual too.

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AndrewKurtz wrote:
Great job. The game is ready for release now :D :thumbsup: :coeurs: :thumbsup:


Great!!!, Now I can buy it!!!!


[SIZE="1"]Oops. I bought it last year :mdr: [/size]

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Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:53 pm

Is it planned to incorporate a printed version of the manual in the box version ?

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Did wrote:Is it planned to incorporate a printed version of the manual in the box version ?


No, there is already the small one. The large one is too big to fit inside the box. In addition, most boxes production has already been done.

But we shall offer a printable version of the large manual in next patch...

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Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:14 pm

Any chance to have the printable version available separately/before then? :w00t:
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Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:48 pm

Depends on our friend Martin who is doing the work. I'll ask him ;) :love:
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Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:13 pm

It seems some corrections / cuttings have not been "deployed" in the final version of the manual. We are double-checking the manual again.

So do not print it.

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Appendix of Events

Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:51 pm

A valuable Appendix would be a list of all events with prerequisites and results.

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AndrewKurtz wrote:A valuable Appendix would be a list of all events with prerequisites and results.



I heartily endorse this idea.

Also, it would be hand to have a printed schedule of fixed reinforcements for all sides as well, so you know what you have coming before you build more.
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Winfield S. Hancock wrote:I heartily endorse this idea.

Also, it would be hand to have a printed schedule of fixed reinforcements for all sides as well, so you know what you have coming before you build more.


Have you already look in the modding folder? There you find all relevant data for this game in exel format. :) This is the associated file for reinforcements which you can print out: [ATTACH]5847[/ATTACH]
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AndrewKurtz wrote:A valuable Appendix would be a list of all events with prerequisites and results.


I agree. There is in the boardgame rules an appendix which shows all of the event cards for the boardgame. Not sure if these are the same for the pc version, but they make for interesting reading.

I'm very unclear as to how events work - for example as Entente a couple of turns back I played the Arab Revolt event and Lawrence of Arabia. I was rather looking forward to playing him, but so far he hasn't made an appearance :( .

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Well, I'll see if this can be added... :blink: ;)
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I will work out the Events section, trying to do it the most detailed as I can. :)

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Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:48 am

calvinus wrote:

So do not print it.


Hello,

Is it possible to have a light but full manual, without historical paints or pictures, just the screens of the game, in order to print it with the lower possible ink cost, when the manual will be printable ?

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We can give you the text files, but it will not be nicely formatted as the PDF one... and this one is done with the pics included (with Xpress software), i can't remove them :(
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:20 pm

It would be great ! :)

I think that many digital games are selled now with 2 manual versions, including a light version for printing. Exemple : Advanced Tactics world war II. I think that is important for Ageod to do this with the next games.

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The document security properties allow changing it with adobe acrobat, example with the page 18


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Excellent ;) :thumbsup:
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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:17 pm

Can you explain how you do this ? I have adobe reader, i don't know if it's the samething that adobe acrobat ?

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boudi wrote:Can you explain how you do this ? I have adobe reader, i don't know if it's the samething that adobe acrobat ?

Adobe Acrobat is a commercial software to create and modify pdf files. Unfortunately it's not free.

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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:42 pm

Thanks Primasprit. The problem stills to be there... We need a light manual.

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Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:45 pm

But ageod can buy and do easily a light manual with it for all players, i suppose ?

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boudi wrote:[...]I think that many digital games are selled now with 2 manual versions, including a light version for printing. Exemple : Advanced Tactics world war II. I think that is important for Ageod to do this with the next games.

In case of Advanced Tactics this is really necessary, as the "E-Book Version" has a coloured background on every page, a real ink-killer.
It's not too important for the WW1 manual imho, as there are not that much additional pictures in comparison to the overall print volume. :innocent:

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Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:24 am

There are one picture in each bottom page, and a lot of pictures in many page. And the ink is very expensive in France.

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Yes, sorry for not being more clear, it was done with Adobe Acrobat, not the free reader.

I do not know of any free pdf editor


boudi wrote:Can you explain how you do this ? I have adobe reader, i don't know if it's the samething that adobe acrobat ?

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Nikel wrote:Yes, sorry for not being more clear, it was done with Adobe Acrobat, not the free reader.

I do not know of any free pdf editor


A quick google shows up a couple of free web browser based pdf editors - PDF Hammer and PDFEscape. I have not tried them.

I think that openoffice 3.0 also has (or will have ?) some pdf editing functionalities, but I am not sure :p apy:

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Can anyone tell me what the combat tables mentioned in the manual are? I've yet to completely figure out how combat works, and from reading the combat part of the manual several times, I'm suspecting that the combat tables are pretty important, yet I can't find them anywhere. Am I missing something or are the combat tables really missing from the manual?

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Flop wrote:Can anyone tell me what the combat tables mentioned in the manual are? I've yet to completely figure out how combat works, and from reading the combat part of the manual several times, I'm suspecting that the combat tables are pretty important, yet I can't find them anywhere. Am I missing something or are the combat tables really missing from the manual?


Go into the modding folder. There you will find all tables for the game in excel format.

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Thanks, that helps a lot. But shouldn't this be in the manual?

Also, I assume from looking at the table that a d12 is rolled. Is that correct?

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